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Podcasts, there are millions of them.
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Some might say too many.
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I have one already.
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I don't have any, because there are enough.
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Politics, business, sport, you name it, there's a podcast about it, and they all ask the big questions and cover the hot topics of the day.
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But nobody is covering the most important topic of all.
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Why is that? Are they scared?
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Too afraid of being censored by the man?
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Possibly, but not us. We're here to ask the only question that matters.
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We try and say it at the same time, Max. What did you do yesterday?
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What did you do yesterday? What did you do yesterday? That's it. All we're interested in is what the guests got up to yesterday. Nothing more.
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Day before yesterday, Max?
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The greatest and most interesting day of your life?
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Unless it was yesterday, we don't want to know about it. I'm Max Rushden.
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And I'm David O'Doherty.
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Welcome to What Did You Do Yesterday? What Did You Do Yesterday? Hello. And welcome to What Did You Do Yesterday? My name is Max Rushden. Alongside me, David O'Doherty. Welcome, David.
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Boy, what an episode we have for you today, listeners.
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Yeah, one of my oldest friends.
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The rising star of Irish comedy is Roger O'Sullivan from Cork, living in London now in a fascinating, I mean, we've just recorded it.
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It does seem slightly idyllic part of London that he's in. He won one of the big newcomer awards last year.
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He was nominated in the other category. People are terribly excited about his new show, which we hear a little bit about here.
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He makes fascinating online stuff at Roger O'Comedy on Instagram. He will be at the Edinburgh Fringe with his show, Devil May Care and Monkey Barrel at 5.45 for the month.
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He's like fog. I can never quite pin down who, who Roger is from hanging out with them in real life, Max.
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And having just spoken to him for over an hour, I'm not sure I'm any closer to figuring anything out about Roger.
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It feels like there are not contradictions, but there are expectations that you have. And occasionally he's doing something where you go, I would not expect you to be doing that on this day.
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That's a good description of it.
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I think this podcast is good, David. I think we're on to something.
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The episodes, by the way, where the subscriber ones are insane and they're amazing. We really save all the good stuff for those. So, you know, do what's right for thinking of it.
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But I think it's a good podcast because I think it's a lovely listen.
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Sounds like you're getting emotional.
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I'm not going to cry. There is discussion of things you cry on YouTube. You will listen to this thinking this is so lovely. The whole vibe of it was just lovely.
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Ladies and gentlemen, this is what Roger O'Sullivan did yesterday.
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Roger O'Sullivan, welcome to What Did You Do Yesterday.
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Hello. Thank you for having me.
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Yeah. The second mustache I think we've ever had. Vittorio Angelone being number one.
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We had Tom Selleck early in series one.
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And technically when I have a beard grown fully, that is a mustache also. You know what I mean? It's inclusive. I think it is. Yeah.
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I don't think it is.
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No? I think if you've got the beard as well, it's not a mustache. What you're saying is if I'm a two-legged man, I'm not also a one-legged man.
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That's what I'm saying. Exactly right.
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It's getting philosophical early.
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It is. So who was the other mustache? Vittorio. It will be interesting to see how similar their days are.
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No pressure, Roger.
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But he had sex. He did have sex.
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Maybe we're not reaching those heights. Bring that down a little bit. I've had a good day. Okay, I had a good day yesterday, but not that good.
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I would say my idea, I'm friends with Vittorio. I know Vittorio. My idea of his interior life is just like absolute, like min-maxing everything.
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There's not a minute going to waste. Vittorio, I imagine, if he did have sex, I assume it was like regimented. Like that's when that happens at that time.
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Yeah, he'd have counted time in his diary. That's what he said. 7.18 to 7.24. Yeah. So, Roger, what time did you wake up yesterday morning, please? I woke up at 8.30. Okay. Was that an alarm or a natural? It was a series of alarms.
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I'm one of these people, I set like about 10 alarms. And then the last one kicks me awake, but then I did pretend to stay asleep for 10 minutes more because if I'd woken up at half eight,
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my girlfriend was just about leaving for work and I would have had to feed the dog if I woke up 10 minutes earlier. But she thought I was asleep, so she handled that.
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I see. The lies.
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For a moment, I thought you just pretended to be asleep to sort of convince yourself, you know, like a...
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I'll only do it maliciously. Initially, I thought Roger lived in a dormitory. You know what I mean? He, it's a sort of Roald Dahl type boarding school and you don't have to sweep up the leaves and do some absolutely horrid tasks.
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Yeah. But I am interested, does your pretending to be asleep involve doing fake sleepy breathing? Does it involve anything?
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So I haven't gone, as far as like the snore, you know, the... I don't bring that up.
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That is good. You had me fooled right then.
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Wake Roger up, Max. Yeah, yeah.
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Roger, Roger.
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Yeah. I've pulled that a few times when you're, you know, when you get the wrong train back and you're like, I hope the ticket inspector doesn't go...
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Your laptop is open and you're watching a YouTube video.
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Roger's whole life is like a guy from a cartoon. That's what I'm looking for. I'm looking forward to most of this. When you learn a new fact, you're like...
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When he starts running, it goes...
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And then he goes. There's that.
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I've been trying to get my 5K time down, but it's that run up at the start. It's a disaster. Oh, my God. But it's great news
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for the employment of those tiny little birds. For when something lands on your head, they get to fly around your head.
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This whole day is building up to Roger goes for a run, but someone... Someone paints a very realistic tunnel in a wall.
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Honestly, the bane of my existence. And also, sometimes... Do you ever find you're cornering and you've actually gone off? Yeah. Just the edge of a cliff? Yeah. The terrible thing is you don't fall until the moment you realize you're off the cliff.
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Obviously, you have the whole rigmarole of turning to camera and going, oh, gee, and you fall down.
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Especially when you've got your anvil with you.
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Actually, I need a new anvil.
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I actually have an anvil.
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How do you have an anvil? Because me and a friend, from university, thought it would be funny to post an anvil, to be annoying for the postman. Dr. Nick Rutter, he's a glaciologist at Northumbria University. He was moving to the States.
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He had his leaving due in Newcastle, and I couldn't afford to go. I was like, look, I just haven't got the money to get to Newcastle. And he said, if you get there, I will send you an anvil. I found a way.
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I killed a man, and I took the money out of his pocket, and he sent me an anvil from Minneapolis.
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And have you done any smithing on the anvil? Have you...
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Have you used it at all?
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That's the question.
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Not a day goes by when I'm not smithing. But thank you, because I've never brought it to anyone's attention. I did have it on the desk of the Soccer AM Glory Years until it got too heavy and broke the desk. And now it's a doorstop in London.
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Yeah. That's a horrible... That is the, like, end of life for so many fragments of an industrial past. Once somebody toiled. Somebody from the working classes, they used this. This was their living.
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This brought them joy in their present life. This is how they survived. And now, yeah, I prop a door open with that.
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Right. So 10 minutes of pretending. Do you pretend until your partner has left the house? Is that the aim? Yes.
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And the minute they leave, I jump up and it's that thing where, like, the sheets fly in the air as I'm jumping up. And then they land down perfectly. And then I went downstairs. Breakfast yesterday was a croissant.
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Chocolate filled with a cup of kefir. A croissant question from me. Which is, did you... Is it one of those that's half cooked and you put it in the oven to make it cooked?
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Or is it a fully formed cooked croissant that you ate cold? Or did you warm it up?
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Is part of the pretend to be asleep. She feeds the dog and goes to the boulangerie.
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Yeah, that was it. She pumped to the boulangerie and brought it back. No, what actually happened is the day before, I'm a big... I drink a lot of Huel.
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What? Big into Huel. Okay. You wouldn't know. I've never seen it apart from in shot in Diary of a CEO.
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So here's interesting. I got into drinking Huel last year at the Fringe because I had an early show at the Edinburgh Fringe and I can't eat before a show. I'll just like get a bit sick or whatever. So I was having Huel every morning.
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It's the perfect thing. And it's like a full meal. And then I started posting about it all last Fringe. And I was hoping, you know, at some point I'm tagging Huel and everything. I'm like, Huel's going to get involved.
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They're going to send me stuff. What I've discovered is that whatever my target market is, Huel are very, very uninterested in tapping into the Warhammer 40k bunch.
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They don't want, they have no
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interest in that.
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We've had a string of unsuccessful attempted endorsements. Phil Elis with Moomins, most memorably of all. Although I think they have got in touch with him since then.
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Bloody Moomin coaster. Love Moomins. Wow. What do you
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tend to do with the Moomin? It's an open question, Roger.
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That's just a coaster. I just pop, pop my tea on it.
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Yeah, it was, Phil Elis had a different plan for the Moomins.
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Oh no. The worst plan.
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The worst plan.
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I started re-watching the Moomins a little bit because they used to be on like Daytime and RT when I was growing up.
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They're part of the kids block. It was strange because I'm like, oh, this looks like the Japanese cartoons that are on, but it's clearly like, it seems very Scandinavian. And then I started re-watching them thinking it would just be this cute, nice like thing to relax to at night.
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Every, every episode, the big bad or like the threat or whatever is some kind of cosmic existential nightmare.
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It's so Scandinavian in that respect where it's like the second episode is the Moomin puts on a magical hat that turns him into a creature that's he, he's the same guy,
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but he looks horrific and none of his friends can recognize him. And only the love of his mother can recognize that his spirit inside. And you're watching that and you're just thinking, I really was just up, for them like tumbling around.
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Like this is...
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It's a step up from Chocoblock, isn't it? You know?
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Yeah. Well, I would argue that we have taken Moomins to an even darker place than that.
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Okay, okay, yeah.
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I can't remember how it came about. It's your fault, David.
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You said they looked like a butt plug. I said they looked
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like butt plugs and even that series won't touch that as a possibility.
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No, that's too far. Literally and metaphorically. So hang on, where's the croissant drop? Oh yeah, yeah.
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So the heel thing. I don't know if I should say this on pod really because I think this might end the whole loophole. But Huel is a complete nutritional meal. That's the way they advertise it.
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Stop selling it so hard.
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Okay, so in meal deals, it's listed as a meal, as like the main.
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Oh right, like the sandwich.
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Yeah, but Huel is quite expensive to buy by the bottle. It's like £3.85 as it should be. It's a good product, right?
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It's a full nutritional meal, I'm aware.
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But I've discovered that a local chain near me, one of the big supermarkets in the UK, I won't say which one, their meal deal is cheaper than the price of Huel. But they've put Huel in the meal deal.
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So every time I go to buy a
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bottle of Huel, I just get the full meal deal. I'm obviously not going to miss out on that. It was late in the day, so I decided what will I get for my snack? Chocolate croissant.
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Got it. Roger, could you get Huel as the sandwich, but also as the drink? In which case, you're double meal dealing. So there's no Huel drink I think that qualifies, at least in my local branch. But what I will do sometimes is I'll get Huel as the main
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and then I'll get, there are some protein yogurt drinks that are the drink. And actually, there's sometimes yogurt drinks that are snacks. I've had triple liquid meal deals.
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Roger, there's no nice way of putting this. You're taking on board a lot of protein. I don't necessarily see you in a UFC type scenario, you know what I mean, like ripping someone's head off or whatever. Is that disrespectful? I think I'm a black
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hole for protein, if I'm honest. I think I don't know where it's going. I think someday they'll find that, you know, you've heard the classic story of like, oh, a kid used to chew on his pencil every day and then they found out years later that
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all the pencil had just clumped up in his stomach and it was never, I think that will happen with protein someday. They'll find out that there's like about maybe 10 kg of protein just straight in my stomach and it's never been processed. So yeah, I don't know
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where the protein's going, but I've heard I'm trying to get more fit and active and I have heard that the hardest thing to get right is the nutrition. So I've started with...
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100% pure liquid, just pure liquid.
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Yeah, so what I'm doing currently is big calorie surpluses and just constantly having protein shakes. And then once I've got that hard stuff out of the way, then I'll do the easy stuff of the working out. And I think that will come together.
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I would absolutely love it. A chocolate croissant to begin the day and that's only a chaser to the big bottle of Huel. What do you do, having had this breakfast of champions for champion of comedy, Roger O'Sullivan?
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Immediately after this, I went into 3D rendering a model of Bono performing a version of The Boys Are Back in Town that I've written.
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Now we're talking. Now we are talking.
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If only we had a guest who hadn't done this first thing in the morning. Yes, yeah. I know it's a bit cliche. Can I ask a basic question? Roger, which is, what is 3D rendering for someone who's not a big renderer?
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That's fair. So I use a program called Blender. It's basically a video editing tool, but for 3D models.
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So it'll import like 3D models and spaces and stuff, and then I use that tool to manipulate and animate those things.
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And what I've done is I've made, frankly, a very crude 3D version of Bono that I think will get shot at the end of my Edinburgh show. I don't know if he will,
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or not. So this is not for actual U2. You weren't contacted by U2
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and said, we're
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releasing a version of the Thin Lizzy song, The Boys Are Back in Town. Could you, Roger O'Sullivan, do the video for it?
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So I'm doing it on spec, is what they call it, I believe, which I'm doing it off my own bat, and I'm hoping I'll present it to U2, and
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they'll be over the moon. And they'll re-record the song. So you make it on, I sound like such a granddad, you make it on the computer, right? You render the thing. Where do you go to get that then made? You can't just
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print it out. You can't print, do you have a 3D printer?
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Where does Google searches happen? Who searches for the Google? Is there someone who goes, David, how dare you?
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My question was a sensible question for some
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of our less technical audience. Great.
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That's true. That's true. I think I should clarify, all of this exists in the digital realm. So it becomes a video. So you won't
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shoot a big model there won't be a big monster of Bono that comes on singing thing, Lizzie.
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It's on a big screen. Yeah, yeah. On a big screen.
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Noted, noted. Probably everyone else knew that except me, but that's fine.
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No one else was thinking Wallace and Gromit as their first thought for an animation.
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But model, the word model, in my mind, then makes it a tangible thing.
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If I could admin style stop motion Bono, I'd be doing that. Yeah, definitely. Maybe get a movement up there, you know?
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Yeah, why not? Get that involved.
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Without telling us too much about it, your eagerly anticipated new show, how does Bono singing The Boys Are Back in Town tie into it?
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My show this year is about being a peasant. It's about the peasant mindset. And are you a
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peasant, Roger? I would classify myself as a peasant. So that is subsistence agriculture. A land, yes. Crop rotation. Yeah, exactly. Hewle, famously all peasants. Hewled every morning.
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3D rendering. Just constantly 3D rendering.
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There's more to a peasant life than there was in the olden days, I believe. But a friend of mine, he said, you know, I could never really put you and Hewle together until I realized that Hewle is just modern day Gruel. And then it made perfect sense to me.
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It should be their tagline.
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Yeah, again, I pitched this. They have no interest. Limited interest in this. But to me, Bono is, I think a lot of Irish people, we have like these peasant souls.
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And I think Bono is the antithesis to the Irish peasant soul. You might not know this Max, maybe David has mentioned it, but Bono he's kind of ostracized within Ireland because he was the first Irish person to ever wear sunglasses.
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He was. There's a limited need for sunglasses in Ireland. And for a while people did think maybe he was actually just blind.
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Especially with some of the songs, you know, because he still hasn't found what he's looking for, all these sorts of things. But eventually when it came out, when the scandal broke, I think a lot of Irish people, they turned their backs on him. They said, this is not, he's not a peasant Right, yeah. He's a lord or something.
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Well, he certainly lives in a big gaff. Yeah, yeah, he does.
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Does he live near Enya? He actually does live near Enya.
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He lives about half a mile from Enya.
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But you know what's mad is that Enya, I'd never accuse Enya of that. Enya's more like maybe the last of the fairies or something.
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Enya's done an amazing job of no one knows anything about Enya, so we just project a
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sort of mystical realm upon her.
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You know what I mean? Which is I noticed people were starting to do that with you, Roger, but this is really undermining at this podcast so far.
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My old housemate, a guy I used to live with when I was back in Cork, he said, you know, before I lived with you, I always thought that you were like a very smart guy.
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I think that sums me up. When there's nothing there, they project what they want to see. But to answer your question about Bono Max, the ending of my show currently in work in progress form, I don't know if it will actually end up working
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properly. The ending is meant to be like a synthesis, a re-accepting of Bono into the world. He removes his Ray-Bans and then he is embraced by the Irish people, right? So how long does it take to render Bono?
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Way longer than I would hope. The biggest problem is because you'll animate it and then you'll pick these keyframes and you've moved the model in such a way and then you'll say to yourself, okay, that looks right.
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But the preview is you never really know until you've rendered it out. So on my PC, to render like 30 seconds of footage could easily take a few hours. Then you watch it when it's done and you go, yeah,
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he's facing the wrong way. That's pretty devastating. Back to the drawing board.
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This hasn't sped up. I remember animator friends when I was in university spending a long time to render things. But you would think with advances in technology, this has sped up. But no, it seems like
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either that or you're still using Windows 95. I think it's maybe a little bit of both.
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I think part of it is that it's the classic thing of, you know, the internet gets faster, but then they're like, well, why not make the videos bigger? Everything looks a bit better, but it roughly takes about the same amount of time to render
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stuff. And also your show is in the Las Vegas sphere. So it needs to be a very large. Yeah, it's a huge file. You wouldn't believe the megapixels that are going on here. It's massive.
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How long do you sit there? While it's rendering, do you go off and do some other life maxing? Do you punch a punch bag or
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swing a kettlebell with your mickey?
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So, I didn't happen to do those yesterday, but while this was happening, while it was rendering, I saw the news that Bonnie Tyler was dead.
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You know, RIP Bonnie Tyler. And then, talked about projecting onto Enya, that made me think, what are all the things I think of about Bonnie Tyler? Yeah. It's really just two songs if I'm being totally honest. Total eclipse. And I Need a Hero, right? Exactly.
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And then, the I Need a Hero sent me on, the definitive version of that for me is the Jennifer Saunders version in Shrek 2.
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Of course. So, to celebrate Bonnie Tyler's life, I listened to that and that, the section in Shrek, I don't know if you watched Shrek 2 recently but the section. Not recently.
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Oh well, it's worth a revisit. Forgive me. There's a section at the end of Shrek 2 where basically Shrek is he's been ostracized from Fiona, she's been re-accepted to her royal family and Shrek's been ostracized and he decides he's going to let her have
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this better life where she's not an ogre and then he says, no I can't do that and he, with all of his fairytale friends they stormed the palace. It's like the storm where the Winter Palace, they're like, they're breaking in and they have this giant gingerbread man
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called Mongo, I think his name is.
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It's like January the 6th.
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Exactly, exactly. They're storming the capital here and as this is happening like big spoilers but Mongo bad things happen to Mongo.
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Oh dear. Is he dipped in a big cup of tea? Is that what? That actually isn't fair. What they do is they spill hot milk on him. Oh, Mongo.
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And then he falls into
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the moat and he starts disintegrating and then I always cry when I watch this. Right, so I'm tearing up and I'm thinking of Bonnie and I'm thinking about about Mongo and then
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I go down a rabbit hole of looking on Reddit to see many other people have asked the same as myself because in the end credits, Mongo is singing but he's never appeared since.
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So the question is, is Mongo dead? So I'm looking up like Shrekopedia and stuff like that to see if we know if Mongo's deceased or not. The general consensus is he is dead but we've never seen the body. So we don't know. Okay.
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The problem is hot milk is like quick lime for gingerbread man. You know what I mean?
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But he could be like David Batty, right? Who just after he stopped playing football, he just doesn't do any interviews and he's around but like nobody ever talks to him. Mongo just could be shunning. You know, lots of people are trying to get in touch with him, but he just doesn't.
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I do that currently but it's not by choice.
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But if he dissolved just into sludge at the bottom of the hot milk, there's a question I guess as sort of a T3000 or whatever that movie is. Terminator.
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Terminator. Yes. What's the name of the robot though? T9000.
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T1000 I think. T1000.
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T10,000. And could he then be rebuilt, you know what I mean, from that sludge? Would that be his essence? That's an interesting question.
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I think again we're leaning into philosophical terms of like if a gingerbread man steps into a river, you know, is he the same gingerbread man? A gingerbread man never crosses the same river twice. That's what they say. Yeah. Exactly.
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They say that. So I think he would be the same but different.
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They don't wait do they? Gingerbread men often.
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No. If it's the RNLI and you're drowning and you see the lifeboat pull up but they're all gingerbread men, it could go very badly.
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And of course they throw out the boy which is actually a party ring.
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Okay, so while you're waiting for the render to take place, we go down this Bonnie Tyler, thank you Bonnie hole that ends with these deep gingerbread man questions.
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You get emotional. How do you cheer yourself up then, Roger?
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Well, my girlfriend had come back from work on her lunch break and she brought me... Did you have to suddenly pretend to go to sleep again?
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Yeah, yeah.
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She brought me a cake.
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Is it your birthday or is it just a nice thing to do? Just general cake. Unbelievable. What flavour is the cake? Is it a slice of cake or a whole cake?
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So I use the term cake loosely. Oh, it's Huel.
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It's Huel, isn't it? Yeah, yeah.
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It's Huel. It's a frozen Huel. But it was listed as a cake, but it was really like a kind of a cookie base and then a load of cream icing on top.
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Does she smush it into your face and say never pretend to be asleep ever again?
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No, but I think that she wished that she had done that because moments after giving me the cake, I'm eating the cake, I'm delighted. Turns out that I'd in the hot weather, I've taken to freezing bottles of water in the freezer and then
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letting them defrost next to me and I'm slowly drinking the like the imitation glacier water. I highly recommend it. I don't know if it's an odd thing to do or not. But I'd not put it on a coaster.
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I was about to say. And you have a coaster. We know you have a coaster. You've already established it. You did have a coaster.
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Yeah, I did have a coaster. I had one right next to me but I obviously didn't put it on that. The movement stuck up my ass at that time.
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So hang on. How fancy is this furniture if, you know, I get that older people with mahogany tables, etc. need a coaster put down over this bottle. Yeah, but hang on.
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It's going to be a big pool of water, David.
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You're spot on Max. So what I would say is that we don't live a very fancy life, but I would say that my girlfriend has one piece of furniture which she really likes and which she's invested a lot into. And it's this side table that I'd obviously just
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let the water go on. And I obviously apologize. And I say, I'm really sorry. Shouldn't have done that. And then I said, I'm sure it hasn't done anything too bad to the table. It's obviously ruined the table. Where, you know, we're obviously
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having a little tiff at this point. And I'm just looking for little gaps where I can still continue to eat the cake.
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Cake does not lend itself to remorse. It'd be like, you know, trying to eat monster munch at a funeral or something while you're shaking your head.
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It's like, a big
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sheet of Pringles is standing by the grave.
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There's a reason why the main food at a funeral is like soggy sandwiches. That's the, there's a reason for that. You need to feel a little bit of the misery has soaked into the bread.
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But if you're just having a lovely cake while you're like, you know, yeah, I guess I am messy. And I guess I do, I guess I do leave water all over the table. I'm sorry. Ramen would be another bad one to have at a funeral. Well, like we will all miss him so
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much. And eventually, of course, the tiff got to a point where I pulled the nuclear option, where I suddenly started to go, feeling very tired now.
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Roger, I'm intrigued by something that was early in this episode, a dog was trailed. Yeah.
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We've had no dog action. You've been sitting there for, I would imagine three hours doing the rendering and the bunny tiling. And yet we haven't heard about this dog. What's going on?
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Oh, so the dog Fred is her name. Lovely dog. Failed guide dog.
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Ah, the best.
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We think that she knew what she was doing when she failed. Wow, the cleverest dog. She was like rolled out. She was with a blind person. She was with Bono. And it got to a point where she was just stopping at the wrong points.
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So they were like, okay, well, we just have to recall her. Fred. I'll tell you, she never stops. She knew exactly what she was doing. She was like, I figured this out. Yeah.
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Another dog passed it along. It's like, yeah, do you know what? Yeah, if you actually stop, you don't have to do the work. Wow. We're actually
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pitching her to a TV
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show with Britain's Dogs on Benefits. They're complaining about the fact that she lives a good life and she could be working, but I'm happy with her. I'm happy with her. But in the heat, the current heat in London, she's not up to doing much.
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So she's just laying down next to you. You know, you're fussing her a little bit.
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A trainee guide dog was once at one of my comedy shows early in my career.
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I was in Australia in a small room and I couldn't see the dog because the dog was asleep at the trainer's feet for the whole gig. But what I could hear was every three or four minutes, you'd hear this sound.
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Like really exaggerated yawn sounds. Your first thought is, isn't, is there a trainee guide dog lying at someone's feet?
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Someone here absolutely hates this show.
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Well, maybe the dog hated it, David.
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Dogs love my work.
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Are you joking me? Sorry, out of all comedians, I do think that dogs will get something out of the DOD.
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I think so. High-pitched sounds. The part where I throw pedigree
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chum just into the audience.
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Ladles of it. I feel like they're watching the whole time and they're saying, when is he going to throw the keyboard?
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Tell us about the argument. How is it resolved? Does it resolve with you both going, I love you, I love you. Don't worry about the table.
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Pretty much eventually just resolved to we're both being a bit silly, which I think is a good concession because I'll be honest, there's very little silliness going on on her side.
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With Jaime, it's either I'm sorry or we're both sorry. They're the two states. But I know we're both sorry as she's sorry, but we're both sorry as she's sorry and I'm sorry as I'm sorry.
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Yeah, you gotta take and we're both sorry.
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Do you look up a YouTube video about how to get water out of the top of a nice side table?
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No, I looked up how to start gaslighting your partner. That was the first thing I looked up. I thought that would be easier. I just thought, okay, listen, I've been hearing a lot about this. We gotta get this going.
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Introduction to gaslighting.
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It's called gaslighting 102, which is weird. Okay, so we've had the tea, we're in love again.
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Is it lunchtime or the cake was lunch? The cake was lunch. That's strange. Again, you're putting all of these great calories into that hot bod, Roger, and yet you're still just like a rake with a moustache.
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I'm not sure, David, because even though he's professed to be full heel, he's only had a chocolate croissant and a cookie so far today.
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This is all leading, I think, naturally to what will bring these things in line, which is are they on a run?
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And it's a hot day. Very hot day. And I've never been, I wasn't from a family that went abroad growing up. I've never been to any hot climates. So currently, every day in London that there's a new record, it's the hottest day I've ever experienced on Earth.
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It's a challenge, and I shouldn't have probably gone for a run in the heat. It was like, according to my watch, it was like 34 degrees. I don't know if that was true or not, but
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last week, I got new running shoes, and I haven't had a good chance to try them. So I was just like, I've got to try these running shoes. And do you think, Roger,
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because when you get new running shoes, you think, I'll probably be Wilson Kipkater. Now I'll probably, these shoes, they'll bounce. I'll bounce along.
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So the shoes I got, they were Asics. Wow. Novablast 6. One of the best Novablasts. Are they the ones with the carbon plate in it that make you 30 seconds faster per K?
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So that's in like the Kipchoge shoes. That's like in, and that has trickled down. Do you know in the way like the main brands of like cars will be like, oh, now we have now we have this like a sunroof or whatever, like
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back in the 2000s. And then suddenly like the worst car in the world, like the the Ladas are imported from Soviet Union. You're like, yeah, we finally got this. So that's trickling down now where now every brand of running shoe has their own like fake version of that.
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So what these Novablasts have is they have something they call the trampoline.
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Yeah. Every step you bounce seven feet, you do a somersault. Yes. Exactly. It actually
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ruins your time. It's terrible. So the trampoline is this little like plastic thing that is in the front of the shoe. You can see it, you know, it's right towards the tip of it, like maybe in the middle of the sole. And then
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the idea of that is that exactly like you said, Max, it just gives you an extra bit of bounce off it. And it's like, oh yeah, that adds seconds over your 5k. And there's about four kids jumping on it. Exactly.
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Yeah. Of course, if it's windy, the shoes are gone. That's a nightmare as well.
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There's a burning building and someone needs to jump out of it. You can just hold the shoe up.
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I pop on my back,
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put the shoes off, and I say, go on.
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When we were about nine, we used to play in a park, and there was an older boy, he was about 13, used to come down and just hang out with us sometimes and just tell us bullshit. But he was the one who told me that my Adidas shoes were,
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it was all day, I dream about sex, was what it was short for. And I was like, is that really what it's short for? And he was like, yeah, yeah.
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And I remember getting home then, and I was going to tell my parents that they'd bought me these creep shoes, but I just internalized it, and then years later realized that that probably wasn't true.
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The minute you said that, it came to me as like, oh yeah, I remember that trickling through.
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a sexy, crispy I was on Nike, and I was like, now I'm kicking eggs. And that's what it is.
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That's good, that's good. Roger, tell us about your run. How far are you going to run?
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Okay, so my current running schedule is I do two 5Ks in a week, and then I do one 10K. That's pretty good. Do you want to guess the time? Do you want to guess the 5K time?
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It's a 5K, okay. This is interesting, because despite all the protein, I think you've got quite a sort of middle-distance runners.
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Yeah. Sort of a Peter Elliott Seb Coe physique. So just to adjust expectations I excel over longer distances, so don't expect me to be that. Well, of course, and it's 34 degrees, so you've got to factor that in.
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But the trampolines.
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But you have the trampolines, okay.
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Throw one other thing in, which is our compatriot Mike Rice also went for a fast 5K run. Oh, he did a really fast one,
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yeah. Yeah, like, I've no doubt he'll be faster, but I'll be devastated knowing he's faster. With the stuff he does?
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Could you tell me exactly how old you are, please, Roger? I'm 33. 33, okay. So that's sort of peak, actually.
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That's nearing the end of peak, but it is peak. 24, Max, what are you going to go? 24 is pretty quick in this heat. I'm going to say it's a 26, 31. But he has said, what's my time? So he knows it's a good time.
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And he's smiling now. The bloody trampolines, lads. 23.6. 23 minutes, 6 seconds. Bloody did it. That's really good.
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And is that a good time for you? I wasn't even trying.
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Oh, well done. I was trying pretty hard, obviously.
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What's the vague location of this run?
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This is in Woodford in East London. It's pretty flat run, to be fair. Good run.
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So you must be, I mean, literally covered in sweat by the end of this, when you get home.
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I weighed myself when I came home. I'd lost 2kg. 2kg. This is like the French Open. I immediately felt like, listen, you've got to get me in a fight. I'm in fight camp.
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You know, you've lost the weight. Now you can be on the 330 at Newbury. Yeah. What an ending that would be, though, Max, to this, if it turned out Roger was cutting weight for a boxing match that takes place tonight.
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Yeah. You know what I mean? At the O2, you're taking on Oleksandr Usyk. Yeah. I fancy my chances.
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I think he's all talk.
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Okay, so we shower. I'm hoping we shower now, Roger. We shower. Because it's so hot, and you've just done that very fast 5K. Do you have the full shower, and you get out, and you're still sweating?
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Oh, yeah, pretty much. I think I showered, came out, and I was pretty much as sweaty as before. Yeah, the one benefit is our boiler is a bit dodgy at the moment, so cold shower, it was delightful.
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It'd be a great time to get one of those freezing bottles out of your freezer, or even better still, if you had a frozen Moomin, you could just pop it up there. What relief. Immediately cool the whole body. That's a good Dragon's Den idea, because climate change
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is only going to get hotter in the UK. So if you had an icy butt plug that you could get right up, and you could from the inside, cool down your body. Deborah Meadan wants to know more. You definitely, something I've been thinking about with
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the water is, before you get that into prototyping phase, you definitely need to figure out if that's going to expand or contract.
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You do. When it's cool. It does seem like the sort of thing that you would hear from the Tour de France. You know what I mean? That they've been doing for years. Straight after the stage, I ate two kilos of cherries and I popped an icy butt plug up.
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That's why they're up in the air. That's why they're up in the air. You know, they don't sit on the actual seat while they're riding.
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We've always wondered why. That's why during the race, they lower down very slowly as the ice melts. It's like the ice cap. That's what Eddie Merckx is doing. It's just slowly melting.
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And the poor domestique that has to go back to the team car to get the fresh butt plugs and then just pop one up in each of the leading riders. That's the job no one wants.
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Sticking their hand out the back of a Sierra Cosworth. A tricky job. Right, okay, so we have our shower. We've got a whole afternoon ahead of us, I think.
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Ah, here we go.
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What do I do next?
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Roger, you can't ask us that question.
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I did very little after... Oh, I looked up guitars for ages.
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Okay, great.
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I used to play a lot of guitar when I was younger. Now I probably buy more guitars than I play. And every now and again I'll just look at pretty much the exact same guitar, but in a different colour and just convince myself I think that
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would be the one. Do you look at a 1971 sunburst Gibson Les Paul slash So I used to be more into that type of stuff, but in recent years, going along with Huel and my trampolines and my running gear,
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I've become very much like a performance guitar, basically. So I'm all about what's known as a headless guitar now.
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Wow. What does that mean? So the guitar usually has like a headstock thing that's gone. It's all ergonomic. They're trying to make it as light and as efficient as possible.
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Yeah, and it's all coming back. I've got two next to me right now and I'm looking at a third. That's all I'm saying.
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Do you shred on these guitars or do you play nice chords like Bob Dylan?
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I try and shred. That's what I try to do.
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I'd offer to
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do a bit of shredding, but I don't think it would come across well on the podcast.
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Yeah. For listeners who don't know what shredding is, is that your Dire Straits Sultans of Swingman? I would
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say that's entry-level shredding.
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Okay. Poor old Knopfler. Who I have a lot of time for.
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I have a lot of time for him.
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Would you shred like Steve Stevens' guitar solo in Dirty Diana by Michael Jackson?
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I like that one.
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It goes chaotic. Is that what we're talking about?
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Yeah, like that Van Halen type. A guy called Yngwie Malmsteen.
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Oh my God. Roger, your brand, you just can't nail it down at any point. It's all over the place.
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You have a sort
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of hipster vibe yet you're running 5Ks, you're doing rendering, and now you're playing Steve Vai like...
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I think, if I'm honest, I think that I don't know, like, astrologically how souls are formed, but I think that I'm the off-cut of several other people.
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That's what people say about you. Yeah, yeah. You don't do any shredding, you're just looking at a guitar that you don't need. Do you buy a guitar?
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I didn't buy a guitar, but I've been looking at it and I've been convincing myself.
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What's the new colour? A kind of a purple pastel colour. Right. I can tell you the exact guitar if you'd like to know. Please, yes. It's a Anberg Boden Essential in like an off-purple from a guitar shop called Guitar Guitar. And I'm looking
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at this and I'm thinking, what I'm actually thinking is, well, if I sold the other two guitars and then I'm consolidating my guitars into this guitar. Do you need to
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hold that sweet axe in your hands like a beautiful woman before it reveals to you whether you should have it? You can't surely buy a guitar just off the plans.
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That's the way I would prefer to do it. But in this kind of hectic world that we live in now, we want everything on demand.
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So I'm willing to take a chance sometimes. Actually, the big fear for me, to be honest, is I know if I go into Guitar Guitar in Camden in London and I play this guitar, I'm just going to say, yeah,
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gotta have it. And what is the Strandberg Megapix 4 or whatever it was called? What's that setting you back? Do you want me to guess?
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Go on, yeah. 1600. No, but that's not a bad. So most of the other Strandbergs are about that. Yeah. But this is like their entry level.
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This is the cheap-ass Strandberg.
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Yeah, this is the cheap-ass Strandberg. It's a thousand pounds. It's 99999. It's exactly that. It is exactly that, Max. It's exactly that price, which I think is a very reasonable price. It's a lovely price to pay for stuff. And it's what the peasants would do. It's a classic peasants
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purchase. Yeah, exactly. The purchase is like this. I think I'm turning my back on my peasants all and I feel bad about that. The big thing for me is, as we said with the running shoes, they have that trampoline. The big thing with Strandberg is they have this thing called the Enduraneck.
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Whoa, the Enduraneck. Okay.
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Yeah, most guitar necks, they're kind of like rounded.
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Yeah. People use the term of like a bisected baseball bat type thing. The Enduraneck, designed by a Swedish guy, to bring it back to the Scandinavian movement thing. Yeah. It's the only guitar neck in the world that's actually a trapezoid. Ah,
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thank goodness. A trapezoid is a four sided off square. Is that what it is?
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Yeah, that's exactly it, David. And it's an offset trapezoid so at different parts of the neck, it's like aligned in different ways so that it's perfecting your playing as you're playing along, you know? But we don't buy it. We don't buy it. We don't buy it, I think.
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We'll see how Edinburgh goes. I think that's the...
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You should give yourself a little present after Edinburgh. Yeah, of course. Yeah.
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What time are we now? I'd say this time we're coming up to like 6pm. Harlan Doris is about to come back again probably with more gifts for you to find you've ruined more of the house. Oh, the dog's on fire.
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Well, I've gotten rid of the table. I'm told that there's never been a table. So she's gone to the gym at this point. So what I've prepared for is dinner for the dog.
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The dog has a lovely mix of Lily's Kitchen Senior dog food mixed with something called a You Move which is like a joint supplement for a dog and then some teeth supplements as well. I should say we also have a cat
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but the cat's very low maintenance so I'm feeding the cat as well at the same time.
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That's a lot of gear for a dog's dinner to be honest.
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Listen, it keeps her in fine fettle. She loves it. Do you make
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dinner for the humans as well?
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Immediately after that, I start dinner for the humans. Brilliant. I'm like the cook of the house. My girlfriend's not big into cooking.
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Presumably it's a Huel base. It's like a Huel stock with just three other liquids which are white wine, Ribena and milk.
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Reduce the Huel.
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Yeah, you get the Huel to a rolling boil. You get a little bit of a Rue going as well at the same time.
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A Rue as it's known.
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Yeah, a Rue. Once you've folded in your protein pasta, you're good to go. No, dinner was a sweet potato curry that I made. Kind of a Japanese style sweet potato curry. What spices are going in there? Turmeric?
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So I get these like, I can't remember the name of the brand. Gotta get all the brands going. I thought I'd get one brand deal off of this. But it's like, it's a legit Japanese style stir-in curry. It's very common for, my director is living in Japan
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at the moment and this is like, this would be like the Knorr, you know, the Knorr like stew for...
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Not Le Knorr, just to be clear. It's not Le Knorr.
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It's Knorr. Never make that mistake. That's a disgusting coq au vin, isn't it? In France where Knorr is called Le Knorr, you know, there is a huge mix-up when French people then come to the UK and see Le Knorr and then immediately tip it in with the
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prawns. And they're confused because they've heard that English food is very bland. And suddenly they're like, I wouldn't call this bland.
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But suddenly their skin is very soft afterwards.
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And their clothes
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smell of chicken. And that's also weird.
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My intestines have never been so delicate. A Japanese curry is a like a katsu type thing?
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Yeah, like a katsu type mixing in some like sweet potato and stuff.
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You just don't want to talk about it though if the cat is in the area. Particularly if the cat is called Sue. You'd be like, I knew that's why they've been fattening me up for the last eight years.
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Do you know the cat has gotten a little fat recently. And we've been trying to cut down the cat's food. My partner's really on top of like all the animal stuff. And the cat's still a normal weight, you know. But you could tell any time we were like, oh we'll
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give the cat a little bit less food. We'll just bring her weight down a little bit. She's been like fuck you. And now that it's hot every day she's looking at us like, why have you let me become this monster?
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Just has such hate in her eyes for the fact that we've fed her well for her life now.
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There's only one thing to do is to get four more little trampolines, pop them on the cat and you and the cat go running through the streets of the Essex-London border.
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We used to have a big problem with cats coming into our garden. My girlfriend has she was growing like wild catnip to then dry out and give to our cat. But
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it just started attracting cats from all over the neighborhood. So our house ended up being like a crack den for these cats. And when we got to the point where we were like, this is too far is that I was going on a long run. I was going on one of my 10k runs.
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And it was like a big loop around. And I I shit you not, I was easily five kilometers from the house. And I pass a cat sitting in front of a house and the cat looks at me and is like, what are you doing
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here? It's a cat that comes into our garden every day. Would it be an idea though to get your times up if you put loads of catnip in your socks and then you would have cats chasing you around the area?
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I think I could cut down those six seconds if I just had a few stray cats following me around.
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When you get to the Olympic final Yeah, that's the problem. Or you're going to have to hide them in the little box behind lane six or whatever and then you just drag them out. Well, I think that's where we're in the final act of like the
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Cool Runnings-esque movie at that point. We're trying to figure out if we go the route of, okay, he didn't win, but it's good that he was honest or if we go the route of like, get those cats out there. Or at the last minute you let Tiddles win
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the gold. Oh, that's a lovely moment. And then, hey,
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make me want to shout dinner!
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The different pictures of like Tiddles died the next year. Yeah, where are they now of all the cats? Yeah. Yeah, exactly.
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That's a really nice idea. We should work on this. I like it. Okay, so presumably you serve dinner. Your girlfriend gets home.
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She's back. She likes it. She's wondering where the table's gone. I tell her, don't worry about that.
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Eat it on your lap. And then after that, I watch a YouTube video comparing a ninja smoker, you know, the brand Ninja a ninja smoking air fryer. Okay, right.
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I see. Not a ninja smoking. Yeah, it's not a ninja who's like, his side job is he works at an air fryer.
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Yeah, he's going to be bad as a ninja because they're meant to be stealthy, but you would hear like as it was hiding behind your couch or whatever.
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He sets off a smoke bomb and he stayed around to just get
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a little bit more of the smoke in. So hang on, what's it comparing? Oh, you're reviewing, you're thinking of buying a ninja smoker.
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I'm not, but for me, the YouTube video was like, can the little version beat the name brand version? And if I see a video like that, it doesn't really matter what I'm doing. I'm watching it. Right. So the little air
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fryer versus the ninja air fryer, that's the competition. And what are they air frying?
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So they're air frying mostly because it's made to be a kind of an easy, accessible meat smoker. That's the idea behind it. So they're mostly doing like ribs chicken. It's important to say at this point, I'm vegetarian. I haven't eaten meat in 10 years.
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Roger, why? But I needed to know. Of course. I hesitate to bring it back to the peasantness, but I want the little guy to win. Right. Of course. You're supporting the underdog.
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You're supporting Egypt versus Argentina. It's the same thing.
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You guys are just such dopes. You obviously need to see who's made this video. It's obviously just promotional little video and it's going to crush the ninja ninja.
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Normally, David, I'm just as skeptical as you, but this guy he seemed like a decent guy. Legit. Yeah, I'd never seen
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Larry Liddell's air fryer comparison.
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I wish I remember the guy's name. The guy's name is like, I think it's something like Barry Lewis or something. Barry Scott. He's back.
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He's gone from cellar bang into testing smokers. Yeah, he just
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checks if they can be clean. But this guy, I'm watching him and he's totally on the level. I'll tell you now. He said that the ninja has some advantages.
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The fit and finish is better. But he said that there's no reason why you couldn't get a lot of what you're looking for out of the silver crest version from Liddell. But then I go down the rabbit hole of like who's this guy?
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Yeah, of course.
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It turns out that this guy is a chef and he was a protege to Jaime Oliver at one point. Okay. I got Oliver Vimes off him. Now, he's been a YouTube chef and
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food product reviewer for many years now. He seems like a good guy.
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What other reviews do you see? We obviously have the main event, the air fryer, but where does that lead you to? I'll be honest with you. I was satisfied after the air fryer. Got it. Okay. You want to get his backstory?
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Yeah. At this point I was interested in him.
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Then I went
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off YouTube to find it. And it was a rare case of a YouTuber with a Wikipedia page.
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You guys are so wet behind the ears. You got to follow the money. We got to get this guy's statements. We got to see who is paying him. I refuse to believe someone's just putting up reviews of these things for no other reason. Just for pure love of the game, you know?
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Come on. Get real, David. This guy. Hundreds of thousands of views on this. Hundreds of thousands of people like myself that go, hey, I need... What David is trying to process is somebody reviewing different cooking
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utensils is more popular than this podcast. And this for us is something that we have to accept and deal with.
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Would you get Barry Lewis on? Would you get him on?
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100%. I'll tell you what he did yesterday. He reviewed a bloody little number. Mrs. O'Sullivan, while this is going on, I guess you've got brownie points for making the dinner. So then it's not unreasonable to just vanish for an hour into one of your ante rooms
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to pop this up on the big screen and really immerse yourself in it. She's right there with me.
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Oh, is she? And then afterwards, what she's doing is... Because a lot of it was about how, in this smoker thing,
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you're not allowed to use it indoors. And you put these little wood pellets into this little compartment and they warn you over and over again. The guy was saying, oh, they warn you that if you use it inside, it's a risk
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of setting the house on fire. So then for the rest of the night, my girlfriend just worried about the house setting on fire. Even though we don't have this, she was just like, I'd never considered before the fact that something, your house might just catch on fire like that. That's terrifying.
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So then, I'll be honest, if there's a time where it's easy for you to talk your partner down off having a little bit of an existential moment like that, it's not when there's just water pouring off you due to the heat everywhere.
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An incredibly unconvincing time to say, listen, stuff doesn't just burst into flames. I wouldn't worry about that. Because you're dumping ice cold water on yourself to stop like flames appearing under your arms.
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Roger. Are you thinking of the catnip? I mean, this again is a very Roald Dahl thing. But if you fire up the old smoker, you could air fry the neighborhood cats and then sell them back to them.
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As like hot wings or whatever.
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I don't think they have to be cats. I immediately just thought, pop a few chickens in there. Then suddenly you have a little like food stand just for the cats. And you're making big bucks.
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You're selling them to the cats?
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Yeah. So it's catnip smoked.
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Smoked catnip. Catnip smoked chicken. Got it.
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It's like catnip jerk chicken. They love it.
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It did make it sound like you were getting live chickens. And I obviously, you know, a supermarket chicken was once alive, but it feels bleaker. To put a live chicken in there. But you have to follow your dreams. You have to follow your dreams.
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You have to follow your dreams. Cats don't have money. This is ridiculous. This hasn't been thought through at all.
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You get their owners to... What you do is, eventually you have a little tappy tap machine and the cats on their collars have to have a little...
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I like this. And they can beep. They can just go up and beep and pay for things. I like that a lot. You know what happens? After a while, Roger starts putting the tip thing on and you have to really search on the screen
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where to X.
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How was your service today? Smiley face. Yeah.
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If you just press green, actually, it just goes through. And suddenly you put 10% service charge on you having used a kiosk to order the thing.
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Okay, so we have reviewed those. Where is the evening going from here?
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We're settling into bed now at this point. We're settling into bed and as I get into bed, it's very hot. Yeah. Difficult to get to sleep. So I'm somebody who, I like having some YouTube videos on to go to sleep. You know, some kind of ambient noise. So,
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I put on a two and a half hour breakdown of the entire movie Inception.
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Oh yeah. Is that long enough for a breakdown? Because Inception itself is about five hours long, as far as I remember.
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Sorry, it's not Inception. Sorry, it's Interstellar that I watched.
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Yes, well either is the same. I thought it was bullshit.
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Wow. I actually have a close friend, I won't say who he is, but how he was first diagnosed with depression and started taking antidepressants is he cried at the end of Interstellar and he said, ah he said, this shouldn't be happening, this is bollocks.
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Immediately went to his GP. So Interstellar was a sort of medicinal, it's a diagnosis movie.
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If you feel something in a Christopher Nolan movie other than just, what? Yeah. There's something going on.
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Right. My mother is a very easily, emotionally manipulated person, you know, in terms of feeling real sadness from a carpet ad on the TV or whatever, but a friend of my father's once said that she would cry at card tricks.
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Well, if when I'm feeling emotionally weak, if I see a YouTube video of any small animal doing anything or like, you know, like a guinea pig's having its hair brushed with a toothbrush or like somebody's put like a tea strainer on a raccoon's head
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to help them for some reason, that can really set me off.
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And so what you're saying there is if that guinea pig started then doing card tricks, you could legitimately be crying like my mother. I don't understand that.
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That's legitimate, but if the guinea pig just went into space and then was like, you don't know what time it is or where it is or there's some grass in space, people are living somewhere, and then space has gone back to space, then you're actually fine.
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Unless you cry. I feel now like I've been very quick to judge people crying at interest when I realized earlier in this podcast, I did mention that I cried at a four minute clip from the movie Shrek 2 out of context. No, I think that's fine.
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That's fine? Okay. Roger, a lot of people will want to know about your sheets situation. Oh yeah. What are you doing on a warm night like this? Are you folding them up and freezing them? Do you have a little trick like that?
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So this is where me and my partner, we kind of disagree slightly but she thinks he should just sleep on top of the duvet on a warm night. No sheets. Yeah. I think
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somehow confusingly having the lightest sheet possible on top of you actually makes you slightly cooler than having no sheet at all.
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That's my belief. Max lives in Australia so he would be the expert on this. What's the best thing to do, Max? You just put the anvil on your self, do you? Yeah, I put the anvil on my torso. Yeah.
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And then I light the ninja smoker in the bedroom. Yeah. I like there to be a sheet and by the end of the night, it may not be on me at all. It may just be around my legs but there's something I think not quite right.
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I think if you don't have the sheet, it's much easier for an intruder. Oh. But if you've got no sheet, you know, they can just do what they like but under the sheet, you're protected from that. Yeah. So I would definitely want a sheet in the vicinity
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but I may end up with it all off but it's got to begin there, yeah.
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Although speaking about intruders, that does bring me back to a friend of mine in secondary school. His brother was a drug dealer. I won't give more details than that but he had like a Nissan Skyline classic drug
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dealer car and
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somebody was once trying to steal that car outside of his house and he woke up and he was in just his underwear and socks and before going outside, he made the decision that instead of putting clothes on to confront the guy, he actually took off the rest of his clothes.
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Such a power move. That is a power move. So when he came out completely bollock naked, the guy had no idea what to do. The guy just ran off. That's clever. And I still think of that a lot. That's why you ran fully naked through the streets of
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London earlier in the day. Anything to get that time down.
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Alright, so what time do we nod off here?
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Roger. Oh, I have one more question.
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David, yeah, please.
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Does the good Mrs. O'Sullivan, does she object to there being a five-hour interstate stellar documentary playing while she's simply trying to go to sleep and dream about her side table?
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So here's what we're doing. I've got some like wired headphones. I'm popping one of them in, putting the head to the pillow. Yeah. She's got her own YouTube video playing. Alright.
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And what's she watching?
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She's usually watching this guy called Roley, who's like a tattoo and piercing expert. Okay. Sometimes we'll listen to something together. We'll go, we'll pick something. But on a night like last night where it's just so hot, you're like,
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listen, we're both on our own buzz. You know, I'm still not sure if the table should be there or not. Yeah. So she's putting on Roley. And previously I couldn't sleep with Roley on because Roley is so high energy.
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Roley starts almost every video by going, he's a very very camp gay man. Yeah. Covered in piercings and tattoos and starts every video with, hello bitches!
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How is anyone getting to sleep? That is just not how you're going to get to sleep.
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This just sends her off like a light. Amazing. And the amount of times I've been nodding off and then I'll hear, hello! Hello bitches! And I'll like just jerk away. And I'll be like, Roley! Hello! How are you?
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It's such a generational thing I think, David. Because we are slightly older.
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I just couldn't go to sleep if I had to. Well, you don't go to sleep to the ambient sound of a gay piercing expert. That's quite nice. No.
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Well, neither that nor I wouldn't have the TV. I wouldn't have video. No.
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I wouldn't listen to anything.
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It's just got to be silence. I've got to sleep to silence.
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I guess I'm between, because I'm so much younger than you, Max. That's true, David. I would sometimes go to sleep with maybe you talking about football. But then I'm
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standing next to you. I am standing there. That's different.
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You're sleeping in the bed beside me. Mars Bar makes the two of us sleep in the What Did You Do Yesterday bed. And yeah, I still don't listen to you live. I listen to the recorded edited view.
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Do you know what I'll do sometimes? This is another version where, for context, I know nothing about football. Don't follow football or anything like that. I've played football
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with you. You're a neat footballer. Yeah, raw talent, sure, but I'm not in. Understand. You're not in the game. That's cool.
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The theory side of football. And sometimes I'll see a clip from like, it would be like Roy Keane saying something on The Overlap. And I'll just be like, God, that's such a good clip. I'll pop this on. And then I'll be listening
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for half an hour and be like, oh yeah, I know nothing about football. And it's like somebody's just talking in a different language for half an hour. And that keeps me more awake. I'm just like,
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what is a transfer window? Why? What is going on here? So a transfer window is, they're like temporary tattoos. Yeah, but they just, they slide onto the skin and you can rub them off at any time in the future. This makes a lot of sense.
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What time would you say you nod off then, Roger? Last night was a tough one. I'd say we probably got to bed around like half eleven and then not enough time.
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I'd say I
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was up until maybe half one.
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So you watched basically the whole Interstellar. Almost the whole thing. Once you are trying to leap to the breakdown of Interstellar, do you then understand Interstellar less or more? Or do you come out of the end going, it's still bullshit?
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I came out the end thinking pretty much it's still bullshit, yeah. The big thing for me is, because they sell the fact, it's love. Love is how he was able to talk to the Oh, the bookshelf.
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Yeah, is he in the back of a bookshelf? Right, that's it.
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If sight unseen, somebody told you, oh this movie's really good. Yeah, the main character ends up being a bookshelf at the end of it.
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Bookshelves in space, yeah.
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You would actually think, oh this is like a French abstract movie, that sounds so fascinating. But Chris Rinaldin is such that it's so much more literal.
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He goes, no, I figured out a way that he becomes a literal bookcase. And I have a science expert that makes sure that it's scientifically possible for him to become the bookcase.
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And you're, okay, that's fine, that's fine. It did make me think though that I'd love to meet Matthew McConaughey someday. I really feel like he'd be a funny guy to the first time you meet him, immediately punch him really hard in the balls.
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A little, you know, a little Jake.
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He famously likes everyone he meets for the first time to hit him in the balls, which is like film premieres, it's painful for him. Yes. Walking up the red carpet, every interviewer. That's how he wants you to be introduced to each other.
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It's quite a successful day. Do you reckon you got some of your rendering done?
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Had a good run.
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Is this going to work? The Bonos are back in town?
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I'm feeling very unsure about it. When I saw it in the cold light of day, and I thought I'm going to have to show this to strangers, I thought
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this is going to be an interesting one. Sometimes, like, you can dare to dream as a comedian. And sometimes you see something that you're about to put in your own show, and you go, yeah, yeah. I think those nominations are off the table now.
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I think, but
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it's good it's on my terms.
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Roger O'Sullivan, thank you very much for telling us what you did yesterday.
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Thank you.
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No problem. Thank you so much for having me.
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Roger O'Sullivan there. I thought it was a lovely day. I just had a lovely time. Do we get Barry Lewis next? The man comparing different types of cooker? Or do you think when you
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really deconstruct that, it's not as whimsical as Roger's day?
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I like that he lives in a very creative realm. You know what I mean? And all the things that he's doing, he seems like such a happy-go-lucky bump-along kind of a character.
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And this definitely comes across in his comedy as well. But you didn't
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see Huel coming, did you? You didn't see Huel.
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Oh my goodness. What a curveball. I thought we were going to have a performance day there for a second.
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But maybe like, you know, we make judgments on these things that you can or can't do by, you know, the rules that we have set ourselves. And maybe we're wrong. I mean,
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I am intrigued as to what 5K time we've done in that we've had a few 5Ks recently. Are we under 25? I'm not. There was a time when England were playing at the Azteca and all
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the journalists did a 5K
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altitude just to show you, you know,
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if it's hard for me to run a 5K, it's going to be hard for Anthony Gordon to do shuttle runs in front
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of 80,000 people.
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And I did a 5K on a treadmill at sea level in LA just as a piss take.
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Treadmills are much slower, but I was 30 minutes. So, you know, I'm well behind. In the, what did you do yesterday, park run that we'll put on, I will be really near the back.
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Hang on, with the treadmill 5K, you literally are telling the machine though what time you want to do.
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You know what I mean? It's not like you go running and the treadmill is sort of running after you. You can outpace it in a way. I mean, you could outpace it by running into the machine and, you know, like butting against it like a sort of computer
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game that's gone wrong. Or you could be, it could outpace you by you falling off the back but you're right. Generally, you should be able to control it but for some reason it's much harder to run faster on a treadmill than on the road. I don't know why that is.
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Yeah, I'd be very fast. I'm good. I'm on a real... You would, of course. Well, I'm starting a new health kick now so you got to put a target. I put a post note up here. 10 minute 5K and... Yes! I will not stop till I get there.
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