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Podcasts, there are millions of them. Some might say too many. I have one already. I don't have any because there are enough. Politics, business, sport, you name it. There's a podcast about it. They all ask the big questions and cover the hot topics of the day. But nobody is covering the most important topic of all. Why is that? Are they scared? Too afraid of being censored by the man.
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Possibly, but not us. We're here to ask the only question that matters. We try and say it at the same time, Max. What did you do yesterday? What did you do yesterday? What did you do yesterday? That's it. All we're interested in is what the guests got up to yesterday. Nothing more. Day before yesterday, Max? Nope. The greatest and most interesting day of your life? Unless it was yesterday, we don't want to know about it. I'm Max Rushden. And I'm David O'Doherty. Welcome to What Did You Do Yesterday?
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Hello and welcome to Midweek Mayhem from the People. Guest host. Who is this guy?
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Hello, David. It's Max Rushden. It's six o'clock in Texas. I haven't done a lot of talking yet today. We're recording with Mel Gedroich in an hour, so I need to not sound like this in an hour's time.
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Yeah. Hopefully when people hear that episode, I won't quite be in this predicament. Yeah.
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But here we are. How are you, David? Your cupboard is bare. It's true. This is the last podcast I will ever do in this house.
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And also, for an added bit of background, it's St. Patrick's Day today, my national holiday.
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And you are wearing a giant green hat and have 18 pints of Guinness. While you are inundated with snakes and worrying about their inevitable attack, thanks to St. Patrick, we have none here.
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And that's why I'm such a chill guy. Thank you. Okay. Good for you. Many happy returns to you and all the Patricks. This is the voice I had when I got the CNN job.
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Oh, yeah. This is CNN. This is it. That's what they thought my voice was.
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Then you arrived in to do the follow-up interview and you're like, do you think Arsenal need another midfielder like Patrick Berger?
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It sounded like Joe Pasquale and they were like, no, sorry, mate. Can you be a little deeper, please? It could have been me.
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You were in Texas because you've been doing your football podcast at the South by Southwest festival.
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Well, look, we don't want to spoil my yesterday. We'll get into this. During the first time ever, I've had possibly an interesting or at least different yesterday.
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But before that, some feedback and stop laughing at my voice. The flow will lose the flow of the podcast.
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David says, regarding the Tom Cashman episode. This sounds like in our time with Melvin Bragg or something.
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And now you're about to just say something absolutely ridiculous. David says, I don't like to kiss and tell.
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However, I do like to fucking podcast. Almost killed me at the gym today. The loud and spontaneous laugh that erupted nearly caused a weight to drop on my head.
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So close to the pod's first fatality. Maybe next time. Oh, and DR Congo, he says. They're just normal countries.
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We don't know if that's the guest, David. Jenny says, glorious and how wonderful to hear news of a Kiwi getting laid.
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To listeners who haven't heard the Tom Cashman episode. Wow. It's turned into a boning podcast, basically.
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And let me say this, David. Producer Joel of the Guardian Football Weekly, who is an audio expert and he likes this podcast.
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Yeah. He didn't like your spoilers for Tom Cashman and Vittorio. He didn't like it just before the episode begins.
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You are no longer allowed to go. Yeah. I mean, the funny thing is we're doing now the wonderful Mel Gaddorich straight after this.
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So if Mel's listened to the last two podcasts, I have a fair idea what she's been trying to get in on the act.
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Well, we're looking for our first double, aren't we? I mean, sort of twice, not with two different people.
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That'd be sort of quite the day. Ultra Mods is nobody thought to pull up Max on mistaking the world's strongest man legend Magnus Ver Magnusson for chess wizard Magnus Carlsen.
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Yeah. I was saying Magnus Magnussen, the mastermind host. I think it might have been an intentional joke, but it may not have been.
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It'd be a very different competition if world's strongest man was with huge, heavy chess pieces.
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Like in a way. That's a good idea. You know, the way they say boxing's like chess with fists or whatever.
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Well, if world's strongest man was like chess with rocks shaped into chess pieces. But obviously the pawns would be a bit lighter.
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Like you could be pretty strong. You'd have to, they'd have to be like a hundred kilos.
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Yeah. But like the queen is like a 200 kilo bit of granite. And we were watching a game of chess with two enormous hulking oafs.
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They have to be quite good at chess. They're so tired, but they need to move the bishop.
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Yeah. Ten places up the board. This is a brilliant idea though. Rook to D7.
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Stop doing an impersonation because that's exactly what you sound like right now. You'd never want to castle with you because then you have to move.
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If you take an opposition piece, you have to push it over. My other thought with your voice is that since you're in America and this is the ultimate high performance podcast, you've taken high performance shortcuts and just taken loads of steroids
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because that's what they're sounding like to me. We'll find out on my yesterday. What has caused this?
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And it isn't my fault. And Jamie, I love you. Oh no. That makes it sound much worse than it is.
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Yeah. This is even in Oslo says, dear Max, David and Mars bar. I wrote to you after the Jonathan Wilson episode to correct David's claim that there are polar bears on the Norwegian mainland.
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Thanks for reading my email on the podcast. Is this the last two episodes? I'm afraid I've spotted two more errors concerning Norway.
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Yeah. In the Phil Ellis episode, it was initially suggested that moomins are Norwegian. They're of course Finnish, which you later established.
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I'll forgive you for this one. In particular, considering how hilarious that chap was, the phrase with the greatest of respect, he or she looks like a butt plug has made me laugh frequently for over a week.
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I wanted to get the quote correct. So I searched for butt plug on everything is showbiz.com, which returned 86 hits.
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I thought you'd be interested to know. The error made in the Tom Cashman episode was slightly more serious.
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Here we go. Max listed famous chess players that Tom might have played amongst the Magnus Magnusson.
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I can only assume Max meant Magnus Carlsen, Norwegian chess maestro rather than a dead British Icelandic mastermind presenter.
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Despite the emerging pattern of Norwegian ignorance on the podcast, I still love it. I'm certainly in it for life.
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Happy to consult on any future matters concerning Norway, even if you haven't asked for it.
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It would be good to have a Norwegian consultant. So consider yourself appointed. But also does the fact that Jonathan Wilson, as mentioned, did refer to the success of Bodo Glimpt, the Arctic Circle Norwegian football team in European football this year, is because
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one of the players is a shaved polar bear who just takes chunks out of the opposition's defenders during the match.
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I mean, are we allowed to say that? You can't say anything these days. You can't say anything these days.
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Hey, should we have a guess at the David Squires quiz? This is from Katie, who says, hi, Max.
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I may not have read these emails before. I normally have done more research, but for reasons that will become apparent, my research has been, it has not been extensive, I would say.
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You've been out with Joe Rogan, Joe Rogan all night. For hours. Hi, Max and D.I.D.
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My husband introduced me to the pod. I've become hooked after catching some random episodes here and there and listening to some old pods with guests I'm familiar with.
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I've now gone back to the beginning, listening to the episodes in order. I'm currently in series two and have enjoyed discovering the origins of everything is showbiz and the five cheese board quiz, among other things.
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During the second Midweek Mayhem, D.O.D. mentions Celia A.B.'s Twin Peaks experience after he'd shared his story about watching the making of The Empire Strikes Back.
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I feel compelled to share a similar story. Oh, great. Over 20 years ago, this has nothing to do with the David Squires quiz.
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It turns out it's not a guess for that. Over 20 years ago while in college, I checked out a copy of Schindler's List from the library to watch One Weekend.
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It seemed weird that each scene was being described in great detail by a narrator.
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Yeah. I thought maybe it was a new arty approach to filmmaking. When I went to switch the second VHS tape, I saw it was labeled for the visually impaired.
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Oh, wow. After discovering I was not watching the film as intended for most audiences, I opted not to watch the second tape.
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I have still not seen the end of that movie. I can't wait to uncover more origin stories as I go along.
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Thank you for such a great part, Kate. So you just thought it was a really intrusive narrator who was kind of like the English patient or a movie like that.
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Now he walks across the room. He picks up a pen from the desk. Give it a rest, Brian.
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I can see that. Frank says, dear gents, big fan of the pod. I recently moved to Porto.
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I love listening while strolling in the sunshine on a Sunday. Imagining how I would describe my yesterdays when you eventually run out of interested guests and it becomes a national service style draft.
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Do you know our most recent midweek madness? David was discussing the issues he encountered while washing his downed gilet.
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Ah, this is the good stuff. Years ago, I worked at Gap. We were primed on how to care for such items when we had them in the store.
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David needs to put the garment in a dryer with a tennis ball, which will then beat the fluffiness back into it.
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I hope this information is useful to you as it was all I could think of whilst doing my shop in Bonfim, Lidl, severely hindering my search for where they would logically keep chickpeas.
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Everything is showbiz, especially Laundrie Frank. There we are, David. You just need a tumble dryer in your new house.
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Yes. But the problem is I did that once before. Now, the mistake was I had it on a hot setting and I wasn't listening to the start.
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You get this really satisfying, chaotic sound of two tennis balls pummeling a gilet. Oh, that's nice.
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But the heat then meant that the gilet started to melt into the tennis balls.
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Oh, no. And what we got was a piece of art at the end of it.
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Jackson Pollock. Yeah. It just came out. That's how he made his stuff. L-O-G writes, L-O-G.
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Hello there, DOD, Generic Man 3, Mars Bar and Co. I'm just getting in touch to let you know how much I've enjoyed the podcast over the past year.
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It's been a difficult year or so for myself and my now husband, Gareth. In the space of a year, I had a breakdown after suffering with serious anxiety disorder.
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I lost all my hair. I moved out of our first home. We bought our forever home.
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Started completing our renovation. Got married. Got ourselves a puppy. It's a wonder why my hair fell out in the first place, really.
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Anyway, throughout this very difficult period, I've had the pleasure of hearing about other people's yesterdays.
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That's a welcome distraction during darker times. Nish Kumar's quite clear undiagnosed IBS. Fern Brady risking her life by picking out glass from her oats.
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James Buckley only having two large Stellas and a takeaway all day. I've laughed through all of them.
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And even when things were dark, I felt incredibly sorry for myself. I found the podcast provides a break and time for reflection.
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The reflection has helped me come to the conclusion, I'm fine. In comparison to the comedians and the rare guests for Generic Man 3, I now realize I am fine.
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The bar is obviously low. We're basing it off the What Did You Do Yesterday guest list.
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But I still feel this has brought me much comfort, laughter, and a weekly session to treasure the smaller victories in life.
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I've achieved so much to be proud of in this year. I married the love of my life with my head held high in a gorgeous wig.
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I renovated our dream home, welcomed our wonderful dog into our world, and found peace and happiness all along the way, all with the company of the lovely DOD, Generic Man 3,
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Mars Bar, etc. I apologize for this long email. You'll likely never see it with the endless quizzes Max is forcing upon us.
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But I sincerely wish you many more mundane yesterdays and many optimistic tomorrows. Everything is showbiz, L-O-G.
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This is a service we're providing. Here's a, I'm not trying to start another quiz.
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Here we go. I would love to hear the listeners. What's the bleakest point in like two years of yesterdays?
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Off the top of my head, it's one of where you're like kneeling in a sandpit and it's raining and it's 8.30 and you're on a nap walk and your wonderful wife is like,
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get home now. Just for sheer mundanity. What, listeners, is the most mundane moment we've ever had?
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Maybe it's recency bias. I think ordering a kebab, a delivery kebab. There's something about a delivery kebab, which is...
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Four O'Clock... It feels bleak, doesn't it? You know that, is it called Ortolan?
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There's a French small bird that they drown in brandy. And you're only supposed to have it once in your life.
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I think the French president has it on their last day in office or something.
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Oh, okay. And you put it in your mouth, the whole small bird. This is awful.
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Cooked in your mouth. Oh. Traditionally, you get a napkin and put it over your head.
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It seems silly, doesn't it? You... President Mitterrand going, maybe we don't have to do this.
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So God can't see you is the idea why you put the napkin, because it's so decadent what you're doing.
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Similarly, I like to think of Phil Ellis closing the curtains at 4 o'clock, putting on whatever that Stephen King thing was, and eating a delivery kebab.
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Same thing. Jack says, hi, DOD, Generic man three. Just wanted to present further evidence.
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The podcast is the center of the known universe. Oh, yeah. I'm a half English, half Irish man living in Australia.
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My wife, Australian from Melbourne, and I, JOD, just had our first born daughter. And barely 48 hours after she's born, I'm in the hospital listening to the Tom Cashman episode.
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As to my surprise, DOD reveals he once had a cocker spaniel named Florence. Of course, it will come as no surprise to listeners.
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Our newborn daughter has been named Florence. Listener from the start. Never emailed the podcast before, but I could not keep this evidence to myself.
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All the best from the Gold Coast. The O'Dwires are very much in it for life.
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Thank you, Jack. And many congratulations. Love to Florence. What did you do yesterday, baby?
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Yeah. I once wrote a song about Florence. You'll find it on the YouTubes. It's called Florence Falls.
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And it's about how in the 10 years of having her, she never liked me once.
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She never did anything affectionate towards me. Yet I doted on her and brought her for all these walks.
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And yeah, she would just eat the turkey every possible year. If Florence would like to go to her first gig, maybe you should think about shimmying her down to Melbourne.
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Oh, yeah. On Good Friday. That's a good idea. There is a live what did you do yesterday.
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Oh, yeah. With it's you and me and special guest Sam Campbell. Yes, we've announced it.
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We're allowed to announce it. That's what's going to be happening on the afternoon of Good Friday.
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There are tickets available is the nicest way of putting it. We can now work out how much of the split we need to give Sam.
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Don't. Oh, God. Let's play the just normal country. Yes. I am the one and only.
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What country could I be? I am the one and only. Where in the world could our listeners be?
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Okay, then. I normally try to do this in a breath, but I'm feeling tender.
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Madagascar, Namibia, Costa Rica, Uganda, North Korea, Guyana. I'm also being quiet because I'm in a hotel room.
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I don't want to wake up. Yeah. I'm worried about why is someone reading out this stuff?
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I know. 6.20 a.m. Because you're in America. They might think you're Pete Hegseth in the room next door.
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These are all the countries you're planning on invading next. Oh, God. Namibia. This is everyone I bombed last night.
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Oh, God. North Korea, Guyana, Northen Mariana Islands, Bhutan, Brunei, Nepal, Eswatini, US Virgin Islands, Equatorial Guinea, San Marino, correct. Liechtenstein, Turkmenistan, Seychelles, Mauritius, Georgia, Vatican City, Oman, Fiji, correct. Vanuatu, Bolivia, Faroe Islands, correct. Belarus, Palau, Aruba, Ecuador, Iraq, Gabon, correct. Eritrea, Andorra, sail away, Peru, sail away, Reunion, Greenland, The Gambia, Ivory Coast, Bulgaria, Solomon Islands, Cape Verde, Chad, correct. You remember, Suzy is in control of the board. This could be the end of They're Just Normal Countries. Suzy, please. Suzy says, I had such a good feeling about Chad.
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Now the pressure of having to think of a second country. After much deliberation and much staring at Google Maps, I'm going to go with Guinea.
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Not equatorial Guinea, just Guinea. Oh, yeah. If it's right, this will probably be the greatest thing that's happened to me in my adult life.
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In it for life, Suzy. Here we go. To fill the board and complete the game.
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Please, producer Will. Producer Will. Is Suzy right with the answer of Guinea? Urgh.
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He left a pause there. Yeah, he did. I thought I'd just fallen asleep. Two.
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There were two listens in Guinea. That's like getting one on Pointless. That far away from the greatest moment of your life, Suzy.
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Two listens in Guinea. It'd be fun if something had happened to your headphones and at that moment it had switched onto a huge sound system that was in your room and the entire hotel was woken by the sound from catchphrase.
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Hang on, what's that? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. It's a catchphrase. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I think bejoying as an alarm would be really good.
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I see you obviously learn to hate all alarms, but that would be a fun way to wake up.
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Hang on. That's not catchphrase. That's Family Fortunes. That's Family Fortunes. Another show you'd be great at hosting, for sure.
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Thanks. My friend Clive used to come over on a Friday and we'd watch it at seven.
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That was what being a youth in Cambridge was like. It's like a box set series now where you're like, oh, we do one more app.
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We just do one more Family Fortunes. Next thing it's three in the morning and you're on your knees, the Wilsons.
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I've got a good feeling about the Wilmots. Well, I can't believe they put Gary in the booth.
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He's not going to get me. This is on good form today, isn't he, Clive?
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Yes, he is. Yeah. For the first time ever, I say with a modicum of genuine curiosity, what the hell did you do yesterday, Max?
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What time did you wake up at? It's not that wild. Okay. So yesterday, when I did wake up at three in the morning and I couldn't sleep for three hours and that never happens to me.
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But my body clock is confused about things at the moment. And I try all the tactics.
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I try the Marie Elaine CIA tactic for fucking ages. You know, I'm holding my breathing up for five.
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I'm like, this is not working for me. She's always asleep by the number 13. I'm not.
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Yeah. I do all the things you're probably not meant to do. I just, then I scroll for a bit because I'm like, well, you know, what's going on in the world?
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I don't know what time it is anywhere else. So things are probably happening. And then I'm like, okay, I'll play Squaredle.
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Maybe that will make me tired. I'm already tired. But anyway, it's 6.42. I'm sad, but then I fall asleep.
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So maybe this doesn't count because it's 8.23. No, I'm counting it. That's fine. Okay. So 8.23.
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I'm awake. I'm in Austin, Texas for South by Southwest, which as far as I can tell is an expo of lots of people talking about AI.
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And we're spending most of the time wondering what we're doing here. Everything you pass is how innovation will affect AI or how AI will affect innovation.
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And none of us know really what either of those two things are. So we're slightly confused.
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We're concerned that nobody will come to our show because it's not about that. Or maybe everyone will because it's the only place.
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It's like a refuge from a discussion about AI. That's what we can tell. Question.
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Why aren't there? Because originally it was a cool bands festival. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Are you our geese in the room next door to you? They're a cool band.
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Are you seeing any cool people at all or just these sociopathic tech nerds? Well, I don't know how to tell Jamie this.
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So maybe this is the best place because this is a work trip. Yeah. But on Saturday, all we did was go to watch Alanis Morissette.
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Do Jagged Little Pill. Well, 11 p.m. she was on. I was like, well, if she is a minute late, I mean, she was very punctual.
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She played all the hits. She was absolutely brilliant. I absolutely loved it, as you can imagine.
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It was absolutely in my wheelhouse. Before, on the radio, on the show I did with Charlie Baker, Stuart Pearce comes on, the former England left back England captain.
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He's always the co-coms for the next game. And then we say, yeah, who cares about the game?
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What was the last gig he went to? Because Stuart Pearce goes to watch The Stranglers at least once a week.
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Great. And then he goes to all these punk bands and whatever. Barry Glendenning, my co-host and producer Joel, who doesn't like your spoilers, they asked me, when was the last gig he went to?
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And I was like, wow. Oh, no. And then I was like, well, I definitely went to see the Red Hot Chili Peppers in Hyde Park, and they were supported by James Brown.
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So then we checked that James Brown died in 2006. And he was definitely alive during that gig.
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Unless this was AI at its very best, because he was really dancing around with James, as you'd hope, even at a ripe old age of whatever it was.
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Sorry, just, I know we don't have time for this, but imagine if James Brown was your support act.
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I know. You'd really have to pull out a big performance. I know, it's true, isn't it?
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Yeah, you're like, do you have someone just a bit quieter and worse? We want someone to get the room moving, but we don't want, Papa's got a brand new bag.
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The second hardest working man in showbiz, just there down, would be a good support act for me.
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And then we worked out that I once, I was sent to watch Kasabian, if you remember, for the England kit unveil.
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Why I was sent to do that, I don't know. Yeah. I think I once accidentally went to, I was in New York, and Liam Gallagher's new band, BDI, were playing, were they?
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So I went to that, that was noisy. Oh, yes. It's probably been 15 years. I messaged Jamie to say, I said, when was the last gig we went to?
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Have we ever been to a gig? And she replied, I don't have time for this.
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So I was like, yeah. I love you, Jamie. Okay, so it's 8.23. We've got a live show at 11.30.
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And like as headliners, 11.30 on a Monday morning seems an odd time. But you know, we are there to close the festival.
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That's how we see it very much. Like the Spice Girls with the 2012 Olympics. That's what we feel.
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There seem to be panels carrying on after we finish, but that's fine. Interruption. David.
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You say you're there with producer Joel, who we've never heard on the podcast, and Barry Glendanning, your Irish sidekick.
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My Irish sidekick. Your other Irish sidekick. Yeah, yeah. That's not enough to do Guardian Football Weekly.
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So have you rustled up some... Peter Thiel is coming on. We'll get to all these.
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But they're not there yet. So it's 8.23. I think maybe I'll go to sleep till 10 because I've not really had any sleep.
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But then I'm like awake. I go, okay. I'm meeting him in the Kirby Lane Cafe, a great diner.
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He's sat at the bar on a nice high chair that spins around. And he's had some pancakes.
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And they're all... Everyone has, you know, service is so amazing here. And everyone's so lovely.
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And, you know, what do you all want? And they're like, okay, I'm in America.
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Wow. Lucky for people, I can't do a quiz because I don't know who they are.
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But I was staring at them going, I know who they are, but I don't know who they are.
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Everyone else was just on their phone going, I'm making a movie. You're making a movie.
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I'm making a movie. I was like, this is really great. I feel like I'm in Los Angeles.
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I'm making a movie. I'm doing a pod script, actually. You in the diner as well.
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Just like, excuse me, can I get a three quarter flat white? Just as the lady comes around with the jug of coffee.
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I'm having the jug of coffee. When I got on the plane, I know this isn't my yesterday.
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I sat next to this guy and he'd had like one of those knee braces on.
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And I was like, oh, you're ACL. And he just went, yeah. And he went, I'm high, by the way.
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I was like, okay, good for you. This is fun, isn't it? I said, you do you.
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I'm quite tired. You're high. I'm tired. This is where you're good. Okay. We're in Kirby Lane.
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I get a black coffee. I've just brushed my teeth. I'm going to wait to get my food.
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We're doing the pod script. We're working out what bits we're going to have and all that kind of stuff.
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I've had pancakes two days running. So, sorry, Jamie again. So I have poached eggs on toast with avocado and they bring it all as sides.
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So I get four small plates. It's like breakfast tapas. It's nice. I'm like, good.
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I have one plate with all of this and I pour it all on. I eat it and that's great.
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We work on the show, what we're going to do. And then at 10 o'clock, we're getting an Uber to the hotel.
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It's five degrees. It's been really hot. It was like 35 the day before, but it's cold, but it's fresh.
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Barry's in a t-shirt and shorts and it is suggested he'll be too cold. So he changes and gets more clothes on.
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In the taxi, me, producer Joel, Barry Glendenning, the US soccer editor. It's a guy called Alex Abnos.
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He's great. Like he's a brilliant journalist and a really nice guy. We've known him for two days.
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We like him. That's good. And the last member of the panel is Brendan Hunt, who plays Coach Beard in Ted Lasso.
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Wow. And I think we've booked him because we're worried no one would turn up to watch us.
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So we get a guy from Ted Lasso. Yeah. Brendan is a really nice guy.
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And as will come apparent through the day, he is more famous than us in Texas.
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I think that is fair to say. Does he know about football? There's a risk in getting an actor.
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Let me tell you, if you booked Michael Caine because you'd seen Escape to Victory, and then it turned out that he wasn't.
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Sylvester Stallone is not an incredible goalkeeper. Yeah. You know, you can be duped by acting, Max.
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That's what I'm saying. Yeah. No, no. You're absolutely right. But it's perfect. We'll deal with that.
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Sorry. We will. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So anyway, we get to the like conference center that we're in and there's like a holding green room and we're at a table and then a nice lady with the very yellow outfit comes up
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to Coach Beard and is like, I love your show. I love your show. Give us a photo.
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Blah, blah, blah. That's great. And Barry's there going, I'm also a big deal. I love it.
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Just sitting there. Anyway, we get another coffee. And it's funny because everyone else in the green room is doing a show on innovation and AI except us.
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And that's fine. People are in power suits and Alex has given me a USA 94.
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Great football kit to wear. So I'm really happy about that. Cool. The way I always do football weekly live is I come on cold.
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I just walk straight on. And normally, a bit like our live shows, the people are happy to be there.
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They know all the in jokes. Oh, shit. So this is like, it's at 1130 in the morning.
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Maybe a couple of hundred people there. Yeah, there's pretty, everyone's like, that's really good for this.
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And we're like, okay, is this good? I don't know. It's not full. Wow. So I do a bit of my observational work.
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Peanuts, hey? I'm making a movie. But I basically say, hi, everyone. Has anyone heard of football weekly?
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Like, could you make some sort of noise? This is an audio format. And actually, quite a few people have.
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So that is heartwarming. Then I say, does anyone know Ted Lasso? And everybody cheers.
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I'm like, okay, I see where I skew this show. For completists, by the way.
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This will go out on the football. This live show goes out on the football weekly feed on last Friday.
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Interruption. Yes, David. Because I know this is a sort of risky thing to do.
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Do you mock all of the tech bros? Yes. About AI? Because that's a little bit of a risk.
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It is. Some of these people have drunk so much of the Kool-Aid. Yeah. The good news is like, literally, as I say, hi, I'm Max, the host of Guardian Football Weekly.
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One guy just gets up from his chair and leaves. And that's a great opportunity, guys.
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See, I've lost one already. I presume he thought this was about AI. And it's not.
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And that goes down pretty well. That was good. Anyway, I say, look, I'm going to do the intro for the pod like normal.
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At the end of it, could you just like cheer wildly? Because then our listeners will think we're a big deal, right?
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So then I do the intro, and then they cheer wildly. That's great. And then you get everybody on.
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And the perfect thing about Brendan is, when he was booked, producer Joel rang him.
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And he said, before Ted Lasso came out, there was an episode of Football Weekly with me, Barry, Jonathan Wilson, and Johnny Liu.
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Jonathan Wilson is alumni of, what did you do yesterday? And he wrote Inverting the Pyramid, which is like the seminal book on football tactics.
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I've got to page 107. It's pretty heavy stuff. Wilson doesn't mind if you've bought it.
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He doesn't care if you don't read it. But in the trailer, Brendan is reading Inverting the Pyramid.
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So like on Football Weekly, like six years ago, whatever, we're like, there's this show called Ted Lasso.
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So and Wilson, they're reading your book. And Wilson's like, oh, my God, this thing looks absolutely terrible.
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And then Johnny Liu is like, this looks like the worst. I hate it. This is awful.
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Barry's a bit gentler. And I think I come out quite well. But Brendan has the time codes when Joel rings him and says, you need these.
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Oh, yeah. And it's great. And so we played that with lots of clips of, you know, Ted Lasso winning awards and stuff.
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And it's really funny. And then there was a bit where we got this email from someone saying we had an anti-American agenda because we didn't mention Christian Pulisic had scored a goal in a game once.
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And he had deduced from that that American soccer players shouldn't move to the Premier League.
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It seems a stretch. Yeah. Like you've been offered 150 grand a week, but they didn't mention this goal on Football Weekly.
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So then we talk about kind of, you know, the idea that this definitely exists, that, you know, when you hear an American accent talking about football or an Australian one, actually, you know, you do go, what are you?
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You don't know shit. It's soccer ball. London soccer chickens. Exactly. So we say we don't have an agenda.
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But then there is a clip where Barry can't name an MLS team and invents the Woodland Timberlakes.
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So we played that one. Anyway, the show is good. You know, there are lots of people from the Guardian America because I think the reason we're here is the Guardian is growing massively in this country.
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And probably because the Washington Post now doesn't do that because Bezos said, oh, we don't need this editorial thing or whatever.
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You know, there's lots of- Yeah, they've got rid of sport. Yeah. So like it's becoming quite a big news outlet.
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We are just four people on Zoom talking about Everton. But anyway, we're still part of it, right?
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So they're trying to grow. So they're all happy. All the Guardian people are like, they're not going to say that was shit when we walk off stage, but they're all happy.
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Do you, during it, talk about the wonderful work that President Trump is doing. Yeah.
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Suddenly you massively pivot. You're like, that peace prize. You'll notice the sheer quantity of peace that has- No, we really do because people have said, why are you going?
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It's a sort of tacit endorsement of the administration. And Alex has written a piece, you know, after what happened in Minneapolis, Alex wrote a piece going, you know, the World Cup could legitimately be taken off the US after what happened there.
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And that was before Iran. And obviously Iran are still in the World Cup, even though they're probably not going to go to the World Cup.
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So yeah, we talk about all of that and rightly so. And also because we did a lot on human rights in Qatar before that World Cup that we can't just go, hey, rootin' tootin', you know, diggity dang.
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Like, it's really important. And like, it is interesting because obviously when I was in the immigration queue, I was like deleting emails and like all this.
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And then there's like 50,000 people trying to get in and I'm behind like 100 Chinese tourists.
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And when I get there, the guy's just like, whatever, come in. This is totally cool.
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Yeah. Okay. So the plan, because I've had quite a heavy few days and I don't really go out very often.
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Me and Joel are going to go out of town and find some like thing to climb and just look at the city.
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It's a fresh fresh day. This is like a nice plan. And then Brendan says, should we go for a pint?
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And we're like, yeah, okay, we'll go for a pint. And then he asks one of the guys there, where's some good barbecue?
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So then we go to a place called Cooper's. We get there and there's quite a big queue, but it smells amazing.
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It smells amazing. So anyway, Brendan sort of wanders off just to scope the joint.
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Then he doesn't come back to the queue. He goes to the bar and I see him at the bar.
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And then I see the barman pouring five like glasses of tequila, not even shots of tequila.
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Oh, yeah. And I am devastated. I am absolutely, I can't think of the last time I had a shot.
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I'm going to say like it's 10 years. Imagine if this day just you black out in Cooper's barbecue and then you wake up this morning sounding like the world's strongest man.
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So anyway, he comes back with these shots and I have a friend, Ollie Holland, has been mentioned.
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He is the guy who invented curdle basically because he criticized my lack of asking questions.
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And he's amongst our friends. He's the shots guy. I say I'd just like a pint of mild, you know, 3% bitter.
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And he'll come back with a bottle of Rosé and some schnapps, shots of schnapps laughing.
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I'll be like, oh, mate. So I'm pretty dogged with willpower that if the shots come out with my friends, I say no.
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And I can't treat Brendan Hunt any differently just because he's off the telly. So everyone else has their tequila and I just hold it.
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I think, I can't do with it. I can't drink it. It's disgusting. I hate it.
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I just offer it to people in the queue in front of me and they don't want it because it's one in the afternoon.
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I'm offering them like half a pint of tequila. And then I go down the queue and eventually a girl takes it.
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I say to Brendan, I said, I can't treat you any differently. You know, you're just a girl, but thank you.
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But I just can't drink tequila. Jim, the barman has given us some beers because I think Brendan's on the telly.
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That's great. So we've got a pint of Pilsner and that is really delicious. And I really enjoy that.
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And then Brendan asked Jim what to get. And Jim like is exactly what you want from an owner of a barbecue restaurant.
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You've got a big gray beard and he's just there. And then he sort of says, y'all want chopped brisket, sausage.
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Y'all want this bit of turkey. Get the beans, get the potato salad like my old Nana used to make.
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Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. And you're like, okay, I didn't like, it was too fast for me, but hopefully Brendan heard.
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And then we get to the place where they just have the meat. You just order it in front of you.
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And the best bit is when they say, oh, we'll have one pork chop and they pick it up.
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It makes a kind of thud when it's put on the tray. Like sort of rare for food to make the noise like you've hit the crossbar.
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It's like Tony Yeboah's hit the crossbar. It's like this chop is anyway. So we get all this and some coleslaw and macaroni cheese, whatever.
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Okay. And we go upstairs and it's pretty quiet upstairs. It's like, oh, this is nice.
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It's quiet. And the food is great. Then Barry gets another round in to another pint.
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Then I get around in. What time are we now? We're like four or five now, are we?
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Well, by the time we sat down, it's probably two. Yeah. Okay. Brendan buys us all a hat each as well.
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He gets dinner and he buys us all a hat of Cooper's barbecue joint. Alex doesn't realize he's been given a hat halfway through.
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He's like, how come the four of you all got Cooper's hats and I don't have one.
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I don't understand, but it's just in a bag. We talk about lots of things and it's really nice.
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And we get another pint and then another set of shots comes in and I'm left out of it.
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Like I don't even have to like drop the shoulder. People realize this is what's happening.
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I FaceTime Ian for 25 minutes in a quiet corner of this bowl. We make a train track in the studio.
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Jamie asks if I'm having fun. I say, I'm not really having, I'm not really.
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I can't lie. I can't lie to her. I can't lie. I'm like, yeah, sorry.
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I'm having fun. This has not been as bad as the London time for kids and sleep and all that.
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But even still, I am very aware. My cup has been filled. By the time this goes out, I will have done a week of parenting and hopefully sent Jamie to stay somewhere else.
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And all these things. Although it is a work trip, isn't it? It is a work trip, but it's one where you're in a hat, refusing shots, but drinking pints.
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So continue. So Alex gets a round in. Then I think Brendan gets another round in.
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I don't know. And then Alex goes to get a flight. Brendan, you asked if he likes football.
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Like he's a big Arsenal fan. He moved to Amsterdam in 99 with Jason Sudeikis. And they did this sort of improv thing for five years.
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He was there for five years. Boom Chicago. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And then he loves your joke about the, I sent a text to the person.
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Oh my goodness. So that's nice for you. He's like, yeah, that's songs in his head.
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I haven't booked him for this. I should have done. Oh yeah. Yeah. Sorry. I thought that's where this is all building to.
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Anyway, he loves football so much. He's like, should we find a bar that's showing the Brentford Wolves game?
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Like none of us know. We don't even know it's on. It's three in the afternoon.
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I'm like, well, this is so Monday night football. It's like Tuesday afternoon football here.
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No, it's Monday afternoon. Okay. So yeah, yeah, yeah. So I am sleepy at this stage, but I'm very content, David.
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Yeah. So we get in an Uber, the game finishes, we watch the end of that game, get in an Uber.
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Brendan is flying to London to watch Arsenal Leverkusen like today. What? What a life.
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Yeah. No, I do. I send him the Brett McKenzie app and I say, come anytime.
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Good work. He hasn't replied yet, but that's okay. He's in the air. So he's flying to London for the Arsenal game with Jason Sudeikis.
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I'm going to the Mockingbird pub with Barry Glendenning. Hang on. Let's just do a tot up.
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Yeah. So you turned down the shot initially, but you had a beer that I think has been about another six rounds since then.
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Now the American pint is a little smaller than the UK pint. Okay. But not so much that you haven't had, I would say seven drinks at this point.
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Between five and seven. I don't know. Anyway, I'm really wasted. Oh, wow. We drop our bags off and then we go to Mockingbird and Barry has spent most of the weekend on one chair.
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He's found his local already. Like it's a beautiful sight, really. At 6.39, I noticed, because I'm, you know, I like to take little notes when I'm doing my yesterday.
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I'm falling asleep at a urinal. Joel is like, this is 6.30. You can't go to bed at 6.30.
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I'm like, you're probably right. So anyway, 8.30, I'm still drinking. 8.41, I'm at Giros Fusion ordering a kebab.
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8.58, I write this. So I really am drunk. I'm on the toilet. I'm feeling philosophical because I work hard, David, and I care about my work.
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But I'm trying to marry up the luck. The luck you have to be to be in a place where you're basically paid to drink for five days.
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It's insane. Like it's completely insane. This is totally ridiculous. But if any Guardian bosses are listening, we should go every year because I think it's been great for...
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The paper. On the day before, we'd been at this dinner and everyone else at the dinner, me and Barry were there and everyone else was a sort of AI expert, pretty much.
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Not like big deals for IBM and Google and stuff. And we were just going, oh God, we're going to...
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I think they think we're going to get a big contract out of this. And me and Barry sitting here is not going to help things.
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And they're like, the dinner's great and everyone's lovely. And at one point, Barry really notices that if we hadn't been there, it would be a much better networking session because we are taking out...
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I'm sitting in between IBM and Google. They could come together if it wasn't for me in the middle talking dumb shit about the hummus in front of us.
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Anyway, it's fine. I've got the hiccups because the kebab is spicy. 9.15, I'm in bed.
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I get the wordle in five and I am asleep. Wow. Because it's so unlike any of your others, I'm sure some of the listeners will be startled.
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You know, it's almost like when you're about 14 and someone comes back from the summer holidays with a beard and their voice is broken.
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You know what I mean? Yeah. And it's like, what are we doing for the summer?
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Ah sure moved in with a woman. And we're thinking of having a kid. You're still playing with your transformer.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's what this is like. It's a coming of age yesterday. That's what it is, isn't it?
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No, it was really great. And like, Brendan is a really nice guy. Like, there's no reason why he wouldn't be.
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But like, you never know. Do you with people? And so he didn't need to buy us dinner hats.
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And we had a really lovely time. And now I'll be honest, David. Mel Gendroich we're doing in 10 minutes.
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I'm going to give a 6 to 7 out of 10 performance on that episode. And I hope you really bring it home.
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My question really with Coach Beard is, when Ted Lasso was just starting off, and there would have been a lot of, I don't know, cynicism towards it, like Americans trying to make a kind of Notting Hill-y football show,
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I bet he didn't love it when he did hear you in 2018 saying that. Yeah, probably.
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It's great now that it's very successful and we can all have a good laugh.
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But yeah, he put you in his little black book. Well, we did check with Wilson if he'd read it.
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We put another slide on the screen. It was just me going, have you read it?
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And he went, just no. And I wrote, thank you, Wilson. That's the WhatsApp screen.
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And Coach Beard is a bit like, he's probably started a few books out of me.
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He's constantly reading it, all series. We did say to him, it'd be great if he's reading it during the Arsenal-Lewerkusen game.
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Could you just read it for the whole thing and just see if the camera's cut to you, Jason, and he's there like Coach Beard reading Invert the Pyramid.
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I don't know if you've seen it. I've now seen the first two series and it's so brilliant.
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It's so nice. And some of the characters are so brilliant in it. And I'm not just saying that.
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Part of me didn't watch it because I watch so much football. I don't need to watch a football thing.
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Like, I want to watch The Wire or Death in Paradise, but I want to watch Death in Paradise.
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And it's not really, it's about football, but not really about football. I just do think for Americans who that's their only experience of English football, it would be a real eye-opener if then they came over and saw like Millwall against Orient
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in the Carabao Cup and got hit in the side of the head with a pint of piss.
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They haven't done that in an episode yet. They need to, don't they? Kat from Ride says, Hi, DOD Max and Mars Bar.
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Thanks for an amazing show in Dublin. Sad not to see the infamous non-montage at the top of the show, but we had a fantastic evening anyway.
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My guesses for the cheese quiz include my two favourites in the missing gaps on the board in the hope that the fact that what did you do yesterday as the centre of the known universe is the key to defeating the end of boss quiz setters,
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Max Rushden, a.k.a. M. Bison. Thank you. I'm the M. Bison of quizzes.
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It's not even my quiz, but thank you, Kat. Here goes. Okay. Bizz-ring! Brie. Bing, bing, bing, bing, bing.
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Gruyère. Ay-argh. Caerphilly. Bing, bing, bing, bing. Cashel Blue. Bing, bing, bing, bing. Port Salou.
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Okay. Okay. There was a clue given a few weeks ago. There is a low cheese in this.
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Port Salou is the opposite of a low cheese. It's a high cheese. Listen, you have high and low cheeses.
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All I have are normal cheeses, David. One of these is not a normal cheese.
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Wow. I never thought I'd say that. Wow. That's extraordinary. It's still a three cheese board, but there we are.
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So, hey, thanks, Dave. Thanks for listening to my yesterday. It was nice to do a day that wasn't the same as all the days.
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What a turn up for the books. Yeah. Well, this now really raises the bar where you need to go to another one of the world's great party cities.
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Yeah. Like your Anthony Bourdain or something, where you just go around and party with celebs at the Formula One.
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It's 10 to 7 in the morning now. And I really feel like I don't want to have another drink for about six months.
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But I presume you're not going home today. You'll be doing more party. No, fly home today.
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And if you didn't, please don't. Hey, thank you, David. And I will have told Jamie about this before this episode goes out.
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But just in case I haven't, I'm really trying to get Alanis Morissette to come around to sing Jagged Little Pill to you too.
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I am. And I love you dearly. So there's sort of two audiences here. There's the audience and there's Jamie.
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But I've been honest. I've been very honest about what happened. You can't not be.
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If I just said that I just had some meetings and went to bed, then that would be a lie.
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I'm not here to lie. Isn't it ironic? Yeah. I don't know why I said that.
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It's just an Alanis Morissette lyric. She's updated. It's 10,000 knives. But all you need is an AI solution for innovation for your cutlery decisions.
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I apologize if I've said this on the podcast before. It's my sister's greatest ever mix up.
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Because the criticism of that song is always that the stuff isn't really ironic in it.
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She misheard the lyric as a death row hard on two minutes too late. Because you know when you're hung, you get a boner.
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So it does imply. Yeah. Sorry about that. Everything is showbiz. Get it for life.
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Thanks, David. Bye.