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Podcasts, there are millions of them. Some might say too many. I have one already.
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I don't have any because there are enough. Politics, business, sport, you name it, there's a podcast about it.
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They all ask the big questions and cover the hot topics of the day. But nobody is covering the most important topic of all.
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Why is that? Are they scared? Too afraid of being censored by the man? Possibly, but not us.
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We're here to ask the only question that matters. We try and say it at the same time, Max.
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What did you do yesterday? What did you do yesterday? What did you do yesterday?
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That's it. All we're interested in is what the guest got up to yesterday. Nothing more.
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Day before yesterday, Max. Nope. The greatest and most interesting day of your life. Unless it was yesterday, we don't want to know about it.
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I'm Max Rushden. And I'm David O'Doherty. Welcome to What Did You Do Yesterday? Hi, everybody.
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Welcome to today's episode of What Did You Do Yesterday? I'm Max Rushden. And alongside me is David O'Doherty.
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Yes, Max. I'm really excited for this episode of our podcast, What Did You Do Yesterday?
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I'm really excited too, David. Will you introduce the guest? Can you do it? Will you introduce the guest?
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I'd really rather you did it. Will you introduce the guest? Okay. If you insist, David, I'll do it.
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Today's guest is Charlie Baker. Charlie Baker is my friend. He is a brilliant guy.
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He hosts on TalkSport. He does excellent stand-up. You may know him from the warm-up on Saturday mornings on TalkSport with Default Man 3.
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And for the tape, this intro is actually not recorded just after we did it.
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Isn't that right, David? We did this intro a bit later. That was a really good introduction, Max.
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Now, maybe we should get on with today's episode of What Did You Do Yesterday?
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Now, the more observant of you by now will have realized that David and I weren't together when recording the links for this intro.
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And just to add to the continuity, I'm now walking down a quite busy road at quarter to 7 a.m. doing a pram walk because overnight, just before a 24-hour flight to Australia,
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Willie Rushden has turned into The Exorcist. Anyway, Charlie Baker, follow him on Instagram, Charlie Baker Comedian, where he does Smug Sunday Guy, who's a great character.
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And I think he's on tour. Charlie, are you on tour? He's always gigging. I think he's writing a new show.
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I should have checked these things, but Charlie will forgive me because he's a lovely man.
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But otherwise, yeah, a really good day and a lot of fun. And here it is.
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Charlie Baker, welcome to What Did You Do Yesterday? Thanks so much. You should have been here last week.
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Finally. Finally. Like I'm on a really good holiday and someone's going, oh, the weather's good, isn't it?
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Yeah, but you should have been here last week. So to the listeners, last week, Charlie Baker and I spoke for a good half hour while Max would occasionally appear and then just sort of like, help me, Obi-Wan.
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You're my only hope. Because there was a rainstorm. We'll call it a tropical storm in Australia.
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It was an outage. There was an outage. An outage. Yeah. Who did they out?
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Is that what happens in Australia? I've heard it's quite an unreconstructed country. The internet was down in one half of Melbourne.
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So they just threw someone into the sea and sharks ate them. Yeah. It was wool from Crocodile Dundee.
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Was it? Yeah. Because we didn't know what was happening for the first 10, 15 minutes, what we were discussing that because you record this in a shed, Max, a little ways away from your house, that you
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had been taken by an animal on the short walk from the house to the shed.
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Your big eagle, something like that could have swept down. Max's big eagle. I think it's big ego, actually, David.
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I think that's what people say about me. I think I'm mishearing that. I think if you ever worked with me, Charlie, you'd know that that is a very humble guy.
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Just humble, actually. So here's the big question, Charlie, is the day, because obviously we were meant to do this last week.
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Last week was such a good day, last week, which no one will ever hear about.
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And yesterday, pretty shit, pretty boring, pretty shit. It was so hot yesterday. I can't tell you.
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It was the world's hottest day. My fear with this now, because this has never happened before, is do you know in school when you wrote an essay once, there was quite a good essay, and then when the exam came around,
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you just tried to regurgitate, like cram it into whatever title you were given. Is there a temptation to reproduce last week's yesterday, today?
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Well, I decided not to. I decided not to. I just decided to. Let's live a whole new day, David.
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Because what it feels like is when you do an Edinburgh preview, and you get big laughs from all the jokes that didn't work, because you go, oh, that didn't work.
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And everyone goes, ha, ha, ha, that was good fun, because it's an Edinburgh preview.
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And then you try and do that again the next night, and you realise, oh, no, the show just isn't working.
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For the tech, Charlie and I do a radio show every Saturday on TalkSport. And Charlie knows this, that if there's one thing, apart from, you know, perhaps the world's burning, that makes me genuinely angry, it's cheating.
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Cheating. Broadcast lies. It's people who, like, get an answer to a quiz fed into their ear.
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You know this, David, from Curdle, and they're just normal countries. I can't be having cheating.
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It's worse than cheating at a pub quiz. Tell the truth. You tell the truth.
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And there is one guest, and we won't say who, who David and I are pretty sure lied.
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Oh. Sort of made up some stuff. Their day, when you go back into it, it doesn't really add up.
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Ah. And so, if you were trying to, like, do good bits from last week and yesterday.
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Yeah, we'll know. You'd get found out eventually. Yeah. And I've thought about your format, and it's very good.
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But do you know the, the, uh, Sondheim musical, Merrily We Roll Along? What's the famous song from it?
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Merrily We Roll Along? It's the famous song, What Did You Do Yesterday? Yeah. No.
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No. But in that, they start at the end of their life. Right. And move backwards to when they were hopeful students.
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So, the show goes backwards. And I thought, you know, I've listened to a lot of episodes, and you get a lot of mornings.
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Yes. Yeah. And then we're 10 minutes to go. And then, yeah, it's five o'clock, and I had some dinner, and then I went to bed, and I'm like...
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So, are you proposing that you go backwards? No, no. I'm just saying it might be an interesting way...
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To get more evening. To get more evening for you. I don't know. You know, I'm not trying to change.
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It's true. I think your podcast is working very well, you know. Some real evening fans do send in criticism of the podcast.
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Evening plus. Too late. Too hot for TV. Exactly, yeah. The late night blue stuff.
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We haven't actually had any blue stuff yet, really. So, if you had... Until today.
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You got some mischief yesterday. I made love to my wife all day. Wow. Get a lot of weight that day.
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Prince. Welcome, Prince. Yes. 22 positions on a one-night stand. Okay. That feels a lot of positions on a one-night stand, doesn't it?
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Doesn't it? Yeah. Feels a lot. Not to me. That's not that many. Whenever I hear that song, I'm like, a bit of a quiet night then, wasn't it, Prince?
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Charlie, when did you wake up yesterday? I woke up twice. I woke up at 6.06, which, if you are in sports broadcasting...
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Yeah. Which I... David Mellor was next to you for some Red Hot Choss soccer chat and the rest.
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Which I appear to be these days. 6.06 is a strange number. I looked it up and so our bedroom is...
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We live in an old barn and we live in one end of the barn and upstairs.
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Whoa, that's nice. Sounds nice. But we have skylights and we've never bought the blinds for the skylights.
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There are no... So it's just purely daylight. If you're having a light sleep and it's baking hot like it was yesterday, then you will wake up with the sunshine.
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Would you sometimes wear the long-haul travel goggles? No, I can't do that. I've tried wearing...
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I'm really... I'm a really good sleeper. Yeah. Which really annoys some people. I can sort of snooze or sleep anywhere if I need to have sort of 20, 30 minutes.
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Like a Marine. Like Jack Leach. Like a Marine. I'm very like a Marine. I'm always looking for the exit.
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I never sit with my back to the door. All these ways. 6.06. You trying to go back to sleep or you're just eyes wide?
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Immediately back to sleep. Immediately back to sleep. And I woke up. You know, I was supposed to get up, help with school run, get our adult son, Stanley, off to work.
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Those sorts of things. I woke up at 8.46. And the house was empty. A completely empty house.
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And the knowledge that deep down I was in huge trouble. Wow. If that happened to me.
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I mean, it's just so impossible because by, you know, by 5am there are two children sitting on top of me.
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But did you have a flurry of WhatsApps from Mrs. Baker saying, this is hell?
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No, no, no, no. She's a very nice woman. She's a very nice woman. I love her very much.
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She'd left me into sleep. I don't know if that was on purpose or if she'd got up late.
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Maybe. And this happens to us. She knew that it was your yesterday. And she wanted to come across as incredibly nice.
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Oh, wow. She's stage managing the yesterday. Yeah. You come downstairs and she's made a cake and it says, I love you, Charlie.
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You're my everything. Yeah. But what that would sort of assume is that she's at all interested in me doing this podcast.
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That is the leap. I made that leap. You'd made that leap pretty quickly, Max.
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That she was bothered A. She even knew. She even knew that I was doing this podcast.
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Some Marine going then to go from 6.06 an extra two hours and 40. It seems a lot now.
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Now, because I wrote it down. So I thought I better remember that actually. Two hours to 40 minutes.
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Extra. Penetrating sun magnifying through the skylights like piggies glasses in Lord of the Flies.
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And you are unperturbed. In about 25, 26 degree heat, you know. Under a duvet. Just snuggled right in.
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Just a good sleeper. And then never want to go to bed. So, you know.
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I'm so jealous. I can't tell you. What I worry about with my sleep is that I do, as Max has experienced in the past.
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It didn't happen yesterday. So we won't talk about it. I do sleep through alarms.
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I do sleep through things. And so I will wake up with the, what time is it?
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A lot of the time. Charlie owes me one hour and 42 minutes of radio show.
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Because there was one Saturday where the show begins at nine. And like Charlie was just going one tick, not even two ticks, just one tick.
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And it's getting to about 10 to nine. Yeah. I'm thinking this is great. You know, like years ago when you start broadcasting, you'd be like terrified.
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But I'm like, this is brilliant. But we needed to go to two blue ticks because he might have wrapped himself around a tree.
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Yeah. But fortunately, about one minute to nine, he was like, oh, fuck, I'm in a hotel in Cambridge.
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And we were like, okay, this is now absolutely brilliant. He made it for 18 minutes of the show.
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The final 18 minutes of the show. Yeah. Yeah. My wife had rung every travel lodge in the London area, not knowing which one I was in and thinking I was 100% dead.
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I'd had a tour show the night before. Nerds of this podcast will know that James Acaster joined us moments after waking up.
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Nice. His blue tick was not doubled or whatever we say. So I rang him and then he was like, oh, shit.
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And he came straight on then. Yeah. He was really channeling a very pure self for the first few minutes of that.
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Because he also, he needs this podcast, James, because his career. We're all worried about him, aren't we?
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He needs this to work out. He's gone from strength to strength since he's in this podcast.
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So 8.47. 8.47. I lie there for a bit, doom scroll for a bit. If you doom scroll long enough, you go, oh, I should probably get up.
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So I think about 8.50, 8.55, I will have got up and I got straight in the shower.
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I had to go to work. You know, I had work yesterday, so I'm trying to do cold showers in the morning.
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Oh, really? Have you tried that? Have you tried that? Yeah, it's a terrible idea.
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It's awful, isn't it? I do it when the, we have a problem with our immersion, so it just clicks off sometimes.
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I think the guy's going to come and fix it this week, but I do it just out of last resort because there's a terrible smell coming from my armpits.
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Oh, yeah. I don't do it for high performance reasons. Yeah, just because I stink.
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Yeah. I don't think we ever had a good shower in any of the two or three houses we lived in as kids.
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So now a good shower is like, for me, it's like, this is pure luxury.
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Yeah. So then why would you make it cold? Our shower is, I would always have it hot, but if Jamie turns on the kitchen tap at the same time, suddenly, because they're next to each other, you get a, whoa, what are you doing?
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Yeah. The combination of when you stay at someone's house and right, you need to do this with the shower and then this and then carry the one and then all those things.
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So Cockring, the man who lived in my house before me. Cockring? Cockring. Cockring. So cold because he left a battery powered vibrating Cockring.
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Oh, wow. Sorry. I thought that was his surname. Of the Bristol Cockrings. Arthur Cockring.
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Arthur Cockring. Hello, I'm Arthur Cockring. Lovely musical act. He spoke to the musicals, didn't he?
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He did. Here. Have you seen my Cockring? Oh. But he maintained for his whole career that it was pronounced like, ka-ching or something.
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Cockring. Cockring. Cockring. It's a silent C, silent K. K. You don't pronounce the C, K.
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All right, Cockring. So Cockring, he was sort of proto high performance, I think, from some of the stuff he left behind.
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So he has this extraordinary motor on the shower that sends the water down at a punishing, punishing velocity.
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But the problem is he combined that with just a normal size boiler.
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So you get all the water for the shower and you stand under it and it goes like, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
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A furious shower. Yeah, short, furious. So cross with you. It's unbelievable. So how long are you in this cold shower?
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Can I just ask about the cock? Did he left the cock ring? Did he?
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I'm sure you've talked about this on the podcast before, have you? I don't know if we've covered it on the podcast.
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He left a cock ring. It rings a bell. I don't mean to. Rings a bell is what a cock ring is supposed to do, I think.
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So I kept it in a bag. And when people would come to visit the house.
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You kept it. Yeah, I would open the bag and show it to them. But because it was so funny, I kept it for too long, like maybe three years, to the point where it was like, babe, I don't think he left this behind.
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I think someone once found this and you've created this myth around the cock ring to try and out.
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Okay, so how long do you cold shower for? Oh, not very long because I can't cope.
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No, it's horrible. Step out of it. Do me shampooing and stuff and then step back in to wash it all off and then step out again.
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I can't cope with it. Why are you doing it? Well, it was boiling. It was so hot yesterday.
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Yeah. It was so hot. Oh, right. So this is not something you've been trying to do to be healthy.
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This is just, it was really hot yesterday. I've had a go at it. People have recommended it.
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My son recommends I do things like this, you know, so I go, okay, let's have a, Andy Jacobs, who we work with, he recommends a cold shower.
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But I don't think I'm going to keep it going. It's uncomfortable, isn't it? Yeah, it's sad.
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Okay. Yeah, yeah. We get dressed, I presume. Yeah, get dressed. Well, you've got to do my hair.
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You have to do my hair. Of course, you have amazing hair. So otherwise, not today.
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I bought some new wax recently, which is wax and clay mixed up together, which gives you the hold and the flexibility, Max.
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Is this the sort of thing you want on? You really do, yeah. No, no, no.
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Good. It gives you hold and flexibility. You have to blow dry it then before you add it in.
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No, no, no. Really? I just towel dry it, brush it back with a comb, slightly bigger than a pea size that they recommend.
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Oh, not much. Of the wax and clay. Put that in and then I just leave it.
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Sometimes I'll put it under a cap, which I feel cooks it a little bit.
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Oh, I see. Question. For the rest of the day, do your palms smell slightly of wax?
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No, no, no. I wash my hands, David. You know, I'm not the sort of guy who keeps someone else's cock ring for three years in the bag.
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That was always my problem with hair care products generally. Yeah. I was definitely a brill cream man in school.
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Oh, yeah. I love a brill cream. And it never left your hands then, really.
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Yeah. And what style were you going for, David? For a long time, I had a step, which simply looked like two haircuts at the same time.
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Yeah. I was definitely of the center parting era where I kind of looked like a peanut.
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Nice. Very nice. Did you ever have an undercut? Not the undercut. No, no, no.
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David and I are about the same age, I think. The curtains and the step were very much rites of passage.
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Yes. Whereas a young boy is a child like me. That's two years later. Not young like you with your internet.
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Brimson's was the best hair cutting plate. The barbers. Best barbers in Newton Abbott, where I grew up.
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Brimson's. And they would do an insanely good flat top, David. Did you ever go for the flat top?
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No, I never did. I didn't enjoy Goose. No, no, no. Rest in peace, Goose.
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Oh, yes. He was Val Kilmer. Oh, yes. He was the first flat top that I came across in Top Gun.
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And I found him too abrasive. So I didn't want that haircut. No. Yeah, yeah.
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I think you can say rest in peace for him as well, actually. Oh, yeah.
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Rest in peace. Rest in peace. He's still kicking about. He's still kicking about. Yeah.
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Okay. So the hair's done. What happens now? Hair's done. Getting dressed. Now, this was the thing yesterday.
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Very hot. I'm still not going to wear shorts to work. I just don't want to wear shorts to work.
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Now, I don't know if this is because I'm a countryside boy who is still in my head going up to the big city.
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And so you have to get dressed up to go up to London and go and live in London.
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They're like there's a bouncer at Hammersmith. So I don't know. I just don't want to wear shorts.
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And it's radio and no one can see the bottom half of you and all those things on the YouTube.
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But I just don't want to wear shorts. Instead, you just wear your full dungarees with a lumberjack shirt under it.
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Put a lot on. A brimmed hat and a piece of hay on one side of your head.
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Exactly. Exactly that. That, as countryside as possible. Like I'm about to drive a tractor for six hours.
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No, so jeans, T-shirt. Yeah. I've just taken to the Birkenstocks I've just taken to, which I felt a little bit old to be wearing when I first started wearing them.
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I feel quite a young man's game. Are you wearing them with a sock? With a sock.
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Yeah, with a sock. That sort of takes away all your fears about trying to be smart.
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And now you're wearing sandals. Not about smart. I don't think it's about smart. I just think, I don't know what it is with shorts.
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Right. I don't know. I don't know. Maybe I'm wrong. Because I know Max, you're a keen short at work wearer.
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Well, if it's hot. Yeah. Like I don't like ceremony and I would put having to dress up in any way within ceremony and I'm just like, that doesn't matter.
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It's not going to change anyone's life. Just wear what you want. Charlie, how do you feel about your legs?
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I like my legs. Do you like your legs? I really like my legs. Although I have very little hair on my legs and my arms.
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Oh, wow. Okay. Yeah, there's nothing there. I have full pubes. Yeah. That area is fine.
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If anyone's worried about that. FP. Full ones. Yeah, yeah, good. Full pubes and underarm hair and hair on my head.
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But I have very little hair on my legs, but I like my legs very much.
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Yeah. I've got good legs. Certainly we're coming into the Tour de France now. Yes.
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And aerodynamically, that could be a really good thing. Yeah. Well, also the young men now, they shave their legs anyway, David.
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Do you know that? Well, the problem would be you would insist on doing the Tour de France in jeans and Birkenstocks.
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Because that would be my job. It would be my job. Yeah. I'm going to wear jeans to work.
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I can't wear shorts to work. Oh, you don't want to be king of the mountains with that, Jacob.
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That is really going to be. Okay. So you're in your, hopefully a light trouser, but you know, downstairs.
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A jean. A jean. Just the heaviest. Yeah, I know the heaviest fabric. Yeah, I know.
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Yeah. But I like a jean. What can I say? Yeah. We can't judge you.
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No judge. I didn't know there was judging on this. No. But I'm going for it with me wardrobe.
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I'm going for a new wardrobe, which is I'm going to go for about four versions of the same outfit and just that.
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Okay. So I'm getting rid of loads of clothes. I like those people you see and they always look like exactly the same.
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Like you see an architect. Yeah. And they're always in like a black t-shirt, black trousers and a black jacket and they look good.
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And what do you think this will achieve? Just for me, ease. And also I just like to have a vibe.
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Yeah. Okay. Yeah. Just to the listeners, Charlie is currently wearing what you might call a Breton t-shirt.
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It's a sort of striped t-shirt. Because the jeans famously from Neem, De Neem. Yeah.
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And then your t-shirt from Brittany. Yeah. So is it a French influenced? And the beret.
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And where's the beret is from? This one's actually from Pizza Express. Yes. A Breton.
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That's one of the looks I'm going for. You're doing really well with it. Yeah.
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Thanks so much. Okay. So downstairs for breakfast. Yeah. Downstairs. Yes. A cup of tea.
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Always a cup of tea first. I'll only have two cups of tea and then that'll be it for the rest of the day.
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Oh, wow. Back to back? Yeah. Okay. First cup of tea, sort of, you know, and then second one, never get through the second one because I've never got time.
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Yeah. I like toast and apricot jam. Okay. Lovely. Butter? Butter. Yep. I have butter.
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Yeah. I'm gluten free. So gluten free bread. Yeah. And a banana. Okay. But I'm on my own.
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Normally I'd be having a chat with my wife and, but she's out. I don't know where she's gone.
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She's taken the kids to the school, done all the things. Is there a calm in the air?
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Like, do you enjoy it? Yeah. I like it. You know, I like a morning.
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I like, I like, I hate having to get up and get out. Yeah. I like having a sort of nice slow morning.
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When have you got to get out of here or you've got time to lay?
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I've got to get out. I was trying to get in early. I had to meet someone for a chat and I was trying to get in early.
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Have we got a new deal? Is it something important? No, I'm not going to talk about what the chat's about.
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Okay, fine. Was it about me? So I need to get in and meet someone for a chat.
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It was nothing to do with you. Okay. And I hadn't got up and basically it hadn't worked the time.
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But then also it would have done, but as you'll find out in a minute, all the trains were falling apart.
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Oh, this is exciting. So, you know, I hadn't got out of the house. Then I'd drive to the station.
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Okay. Drive to the station. What do you listen to on the way to the station?
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Radio 1, the Radio 1 Breakfast Show. Okay. Which is good because you're just about to go on Talk Sport and Radio 1 Breakfast Show will help you get across the sport of the day and support your colleagues.
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As you know, Max, I am very aware of all the sport at all times and never Googling who is Kepa Aretha Balaga as I'm about to ask a question about Kepa Aretha Balaga.
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Is Kepa Aretha Balaga the biggest disgrace in sport? Text in. Let us know what you think.
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Text in. And was it good, the Radio 1 Breakfast Show? What are they playing? Radio 1 Breakfast Show is very, very, very good.
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Greg James is good. Greg James is an absolutely excellent broadcaster. He's very, very good.
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And you're right in the demographic, aren't you? It's aimed at me, obviously. What it is, is when you do the school run, they don't want my boring old sad music.
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The music I like is, my son tells me, is two old fishermen singing about their wives who've just died.
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You only listen to Sea Shanty's famous music. It's cold and it's wet and they're dead.
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When he does impressions of the songs I like. And that's like the verb, isn't it?
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That's the verb. Old men singing, hitting a rock and singing a song about dead folk.
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Do you say to him then?
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And I tell you what, your music's like, beep, beep, boop, boop, beep, beep, boop, boop, boop, boop, boop, boop, boop, boop, boop, boop, boop, boop, boop, boop, boop, boop, boop, boop, boop, boop, boop, boop, boop, boop, boop, boop, boop, boop, boop, boop, boop, boop, boop, boop, boop, boop, boop, boop, boop, boop, boop, boop, boop, boop, boop, boop, boop, boop, boop, boop, boop, boop, boop, boop, boop, boop, boop, boop, boop, boop, boop, boop, boop, boop, boop, bo
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You know, moaning about old stuff. Yeah. You're better than that, Dad. You don't think like that.
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And that's the sort of thing I was getting told quite a lot. Right, yeah.
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Just for mentioning, I think she might be miming. It didn't help then that I put on the Beach Boys round, round, get around and started miming to it and going, look, I'm in the Beach Boys.
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I think I wound the situation up. And you did refer to her as Charlie 10 C10.
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Yeah, 10 C10. Yeah, yeah. Roman Numerals. That'd be a good tribute act for Charlie XCX, wouldn't it?
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What's C actually? Is C? 100, isn't it? C100? 100, isn't it? Oh, so Charlie 120, though. 10, 110. I like it.
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An X before takes 10 off and an X after adds 10. So she's just Charlie 100 messing about a bit.
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Also, you know, I'm not an old fogey because I listen to the Radio 1 Breakfast Show.
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This is the most old fogey conversation I've ever had with Roman Numerals. Charlie XCX.
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Okay. You are in parking bay 16454. Please confirm that you've already walked two miles away.
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You go, I've got to go back to that thing. And it's like, you have paid to park for two minutes.
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Oh, God. No, I want more than to anyway. Yeah. It's that, yeah. I thought do the Ringo was you had to lean into the intercom and be like, peace and love.
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I just wanted to park my car there. Peace out. And famously, the Ringo app replaced the Pete Best app.
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Yes, I did that. But remember to do it. What I do now, because I've been, you know, because I get caught out three or four times a year, for which I call the idiot tax.
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I pay the parking before I leave the car. Good. That's the new rule. Otherwise.
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Even if the train is leaving, you've got one minute to get the train. Even if the train is leaving, I don't want to get done on here.
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So run across the road. Question, interruption. How much is your parking at Didcot's, doesn't it?
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Oh, six, 620. For the day? Wow. For the day. It's not bad at all. I've gone through Didcot Parkway.
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Yeah, that's it. Yeah, yeah. That's when I'm going to the south out of London.
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Is it heading to Brighton? No, no, no, no. You're heading to the West Country.
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Yes, I am. You're heading to the West Country if you're in Didcot. Okay, great.
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And we're on the train. It's 39 minutes to town. Now, on the train, I listened to, I've got a, I enjoyed a cover I heard of a Chet Baker song.
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A Chet Baker song was I Get Along Without You Very Well. I love Chet Baker.
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And it was by a woman called Honan Ford. Oh, yeah. Honan Ford. He's a sort of jazzy, folky singer.
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And I thought, I wonder what else she does. Anyway, I found a song by her called I Wish I Had a God.
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And if I like a song, I will listen to it over and over and over again.
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On a loop. On a loop. So it's quite a sad song. I like sad songs.
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My wife tells me I like sad songs because I've never had that much sad happen in my life.
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So people who've had genuinely sad stuff don't particularly play sad songs all the time.
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But in a vain attempt to actually feel something. Right. Yeah. I like sad songs.
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Does the song go, I'm coming in on me troller. I've got a lovely lobster going to the market trying to sell it to a restaurant.
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No, no, it's a sort of gentle song about I wish I had a God.
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So I feel like we'd meet again. You know, someone's died in the song as always.
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And you listen to that 12 times to get from Didcot to London. I think I listened to that from Didcot to News UK.
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Wow. Okay. The most somber ever piece of broadcasting is about to follow this. It's a beautiful day in England.
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Sad songs don't make me feel like that. But they make, their sad songs sort of calm.
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I find they calm me. It feels like a meditation. And listening to the same song over and over again.
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Didcot to Paddington. Yeah. Yeah. Didcot to Paddington. Did to Paddington. Paddington to where? Baker Street.
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Change at Baker Street and Baker Street to London Bridge. Right. That's a lot of that song.
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Yeah. Yeah. But sometimes you not realise you're hearing the song. Yeah. It's just sort of on.
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I get it. And once again, I love that you've got a three-hour show on a national sports radio station.
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Another opportunity to consume some sport. What happened in the Club World Cup yesterday? You know, five live football daily, whatever.
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Just something. Oh, no. Just something. No. Let's listen to this sad song by Honan Ford called I Wish I Had a God.
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That discusses, you know, meeting up with your partner when you're dead, you know, and if you have a God, you feel like you're going to do that.
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Yeah. You know, light a birthday candle for me so I feel like it's my birthday.
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That sort of thing, you know. Yeah. No, that's amazing. She's a beautiful singer. Isn't it?
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When you discover something sort of fresh and not even new. Like, I only recently discovered, like, the band.
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The band that played for Bob Dylan. Yeah. The band album. Yeah. It's great. I only discovered Bob Dylan about three years ago and went, oh, this is amazing.
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But it's great because you go, I've got the, I now have got a whole new million hours of music that I can listen to and find, you know.
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You're telling people about it like, you know, with the threat of nuclear war hanging after the Cuban Missile Crisis, you're saying the answer is blowing in the wind.
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Yeah. Hey, guys, you know, give peace a chance. I don't know if you've heard of these guys.
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Do you just go on the radio then having done just in a sort of, I will react to people saying stuff or are they going to go and now we cross to Charlie with all the latest from Miami.
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No, no, no, no, no. I get myself down a bit. I do do some research.
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Yeah. And if you do it long enough, you are across what is going on.
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And there's the WhatsApp group, right? There's the WhatsApp group. Yeah, I will say the WhatsApp group, we have been putting the show.
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I haven't sort of said this, but we have been putting the show together. Paul Hawksby, who is amazing.
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And I do the show with on a Tuesday and a Thursday and the producers and I are chucking stuff into the WhatsApp group.
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Maybe we can put this on. This is happening. Look. So I am across, of course, what is going on.
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But actually, I'll tell you what. Singing voice notes. Sad songs. Yeah. Sorry. Yes. Also, while I was listening to the sad songs, I thought I've not spoken to quite a lot of my actual friends for a while.
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I started emailing a few of my friends. One of them's moved to Italy since I last spoke to him.
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Oh, wow. Had twins and moved to Italy. So you emailed him. No, sorry. I WhatsApped him.
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I WhatsApped him. How close a friend is that that you didn't know that had twins?
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No, no, he was a very close friend. But I'm not very good at keeping in touch or staying in touch with friends if there's no sort of immediate proximity.
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I'd just be worried if when you got into TalkSport, they were like, oh, there's been a rainstorm and no one can talk to you because I would be following the similar pattern to Max last week.
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And in fact, all of your friends are either moving abroad or pretending they can't talk to you for technical reason.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's exactly what it is. They've all moved abroad. Everyone's gone. Do you pick up some lunch?
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You know, it's got to be via prep. No, no, no, I don't. I don't do that.
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I always go to the canteen. So, okay. And also the meeting I was supposed to have, we rearranged to have for 10 minutes at sort of 1230ish before the show.
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Right. Okay. So when do you get in? So I get in about 11, 1115. Okay. Check out the vibes, as they say, see what we've already got in the show.
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No one wants to hear about how you put a radio show together. Well, let me, because we don't get talk sports here.
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So are we covering the world of sport on this show? It's 90% football. And no, no, actually, actually the show in the week, I'd say is, is mainly football based.
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Yeah. But you'll have been on Hawksby and Jacobs. You'll have been on it, David.
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I've never been on it. You must have been. Even my sporting world is all Gaelic football and hurling at the moment, you know?
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So the Hawksby and Jacobs show. It's brilliant. Max is in the family of the Hawksby and Jacobs show.
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Hawksby and Jacobs have been going for 25 years on Talk Sport. They produced Padilla and Skinner's Fantasy Football back in the day.
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And Paul edited 90 minutes. Yeah. They both written for lots of comedians. Paul, I know, has written for Frankie Howard, Two Ronnies.
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One of the main writers on TV, Burp. And their show is completely unique in radio in the fact that it is a three hour show of, yes, sport, but also the arts, media.
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It's a bit like me and Charlie's show and me and Barry's show, but it's unlike any other.
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They will have guests on who have nothing to do with sport. They both have an intense interest in, I'd say, sport and the arts.
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So what do you discuss on the show yesterday? We had in the show yesterday, this was a new one on me.
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In the studio, they're fighting Saturday night. They came into the studio and sat next to each other.
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Whoa. Bare knuckle boxers. Shit. And do they hate each other or do they pretend they hate each other?
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They do not like each other. Bare knuckle boxers. Imagine that being your job. You'd do it in jeans, Charlie, and that is an issue.
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I would do it in jeans. Charlie, the jeans baker. Did you ask, because I want to say, it must really hurt.
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Why don't you put that in? That's the sort of thing I do try and ask.
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One question I did ask, which was, when you first did it, because they started as boxers.
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I said, when you first did it, did you walk to the ring and think, hang on a minute, I've forgotten something.
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Where's me gloves? But because it's a small sport and they're obviously trying to get publicity for it by going on the radio.
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Do they actually not straight up don't like each other? Are they kind of friends?
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Do you get the impression that they came in the same taxi? You either get that in boxing with boxers or you get, there's a high level of respect, David.
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Yeah, sure. It's a very, very, very high level of respect. One guy was like, he was from us.
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He was from Massachusetts and he was like a proper, I'm fourth generation bare knuckle boxer.
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He was like out of a, not even a Scorsese film, like a sort of made for TV, channel five.
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A hallmark Christmas bare knuckle boxing film. Bare knuckle boxing film. Hey, forget about it.
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I'm just here to make some money for my family. Yes, it's great to be here, sir.
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Okay. You know what? I got the belt and he had this massive belt on him.
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And the other guy was from the valleys in Wales. Oh, well, right. Was a nice guy, but didn't have an awful lot to say.
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Right. He lets his bare knuckles do the talking. He does. He does. How do you think you'd get on in a bare knuckle?
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Ever had a fight, David? You ever had a fight? I've never had a fight in the sense of me unbuttoning my shirt and handing it to my corner man.
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That sounds sexy. That sort of a thing. But there's been some flashpoints, certainly. Cycling?
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Cycling, I imagine there's some flashpoints because you're scared of being knocked off your bike.
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Yeah, but that's more just shouting at cars and stuff like that. I've never. No, the last time.
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I got punched at an attempt to punch someone. I did a gig in Swindon and someone stole my bag with the keyboard in it, which is just one of the worst things to steal.
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Oh, yeah. Because I think they would imagine it's a large enough bag. It's full of jewels or whatever.
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But it's got a keyboard that's literally $15 on eBay edit. So with him, he punched me, took it.
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I punched sort of the back of his shoulder and then did manage to kick him up the hole as he went away.
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Well done. Did he drop the bag or not? No, he didn't drop the bag.
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No. And now he is performing in Edinburgh. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He's David Letterman's keyboard player, isn't he?
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He's the band guy in Letterman, isn't he? It's unbelievable. Tim Minchin. That guy is Tim Minchin.
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You kicked him up the arse though. That's quite an old school sort of whizzer and chips fight.
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Yeah. Why isn't that a sport? That's the one they should bring in. Arse kicking.
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That is such a good idea. Kicking up the arse. You get one go each.
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One go each until someone says, actually, that's enough now. The problem with kicking up the arse, I feel, is that as technique has come more into it, you go from the side on.
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Whereas if you watch rugby in the 1970s when they used to kick the ball, they took three steps straight back and toe bogged it.
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And that to me is the classic arse. I think I'd go for toe. I'd go for end of foot in anus.
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But you wouldn't want to be in Birkenstocks, do you? You don't want to be...
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No, no, no. Not an open toe. Depends if you're a barefoot arse kicker. Of course, yeah.
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Have I on a league? That's bad. But you have to shed. Can I have my flip-flop back?
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After you've kicked someone up the hole. Yeah. And there's no running away either in the flip-flop league.
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There is, but with scrunched toes. Okay, great. Okay, yeah. Okay. I was just going to say that show on TalkSport, like we say it is a really good show.
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Both Charlie and I have sat in and hosted that show and done that show together.
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There are people who have an image of what TalkSport is. And this is the antithesis of what that image is.
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And it's a really lovely, sensitive show broadcast by two, two like great friends of ours who are brilliant.
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It's brilliant. It's absolutely brilliant and deserves, actually deserves to be platformed at some point by something else because it's a sensational piece of work.
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It's brilliant. And it's such company for people. Radio is company for people, but the messages you get on that show and- It's after five live I go, not you, Baker.
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After five live I go. Well, I did pitch a new thing yesterday, which is the pH test, the Paul Hawksby test, the pH test, which we did on air, which was quite fun actually.
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I think Paul Hawksby is one of the best storytellers and sort of joke tellers ever.
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And I said, so with your best story, you've got to try and get into the Paul Hawksby Hall of Fame.
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Okay. It's the pH test. So we had three callers lined up. They all had to tell their best story.
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Okay. And were they good? Well, the first one was absolutely fantastic. Oh, good. It was about a bloke who'd gone for a job interview.
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He was nervous and he shook the guy's hand and the bloke's hand came off.
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Great. That's amazing. So yeah, that got in, that got into the Hall of Fame.
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The other two didn't. Absolutely. Okay. That's the other thing about radio is you can come up with an idea, you can have a go at it.
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And Paul and our Andy are always up for having a go at it. Like Max's, you know, we run with it.
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How long is the broadcast then? Three hours. Wow. Okay. Three hours. But literally you finish, you walk out and that's it.
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There's no like, and now a debrief and now this and that. And then out, out the door on the tube.
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Do you put the same sad song on? Well, I put it, no, actually I did put it on.
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And then I went, yeah, I'm not in the mood for that. I don't want to hear that now.
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Not into that now. I'll get that sometimes with, I mean, I think of the times I listened to a song over and over.
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Some of the Tom Waits songs. Oh, yes. Another new artist you will discover in the next few years.
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You joke. I listened to, oh, what album is it? What's it got on it?
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Looking for the Heart of Saturday Night. Oh yeah. That's the name of the album.
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I went, well, I think this is the greatest song of all time. Yeah. And now I'm going to tell everybody about this.
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Absolutely incredible. And Martha, what a song Martha is. An unbelievable song. Martha is a classic song that the first time I listened to it, I listened to it probably 20 times in a row.
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And probably haven't felt the need to listen to it that much since then. Because it tells a beautiful story.
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Well, you write your own songs, David. Do you ever think I want to play this song and sing it?
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Do you ever feel like you want to do covers? Sometimes I play a cover in an encore.
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But with a song like that, there's not much to add to it. Because you'd have to say he's done a very good version of it.
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I wonder if Charlie was just leaning towards just asking if you'd come and do a party for him.
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But we just can get into the groove. Do you know the boom, boom, boom, let me hear you say way-o?
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David. Just wondering. David David O'Doherty sings the Out Here Brothers. I'm here for this. That's an album I would buy.
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I once stayed up till four in the morning with Grayson Perry, the artist. We were camping for a TV show.
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And we were back cycling up a mountain at 7 a.m. in Wales. And we stayed up too late.
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And I had a piano with me. But the one song we both knew all the lyrics to was Martha by Tom Waits.
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So we sang that over and over again through the Welsh Charlie. Max, have you ever heard that song?
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I haven't. No, if it wasn't on Fern Cotton's Sounds of the 90s, then I haven't heard it recently.
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But I will know. I will go and find it. David recommended me to jazz the other day.
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And I listened to lots of it. What jazz was it? What jazz was it?
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Brad Meldow. Yeah, there's a guy called Brad Meldow who's a piano player of the modern style.
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The Brad Meldow trio is fantastic. There you go. Yeah, yeah. And do you know what?
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I listened to it and I was like, because David went to see him and he's a friend of David's.
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And I was like, okay. And I didn't know it was. And so I listened to it as I was walking down Sydney Road in Melbourne.
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It's a beautiful winter's day. And it's the kind of music that makes you sort of think like a narrator is going to start narrating.
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And it's you. You're narrating. And he's going to say something really profound. And as I was walking along, I was like, I just can't wait for this profound thing to fall into my mind.
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And nothing profound came into it. I don't think that's the music. I just think I was just thinking, and I need to get some peanut butter.
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And I really want this baby to stay asleep. You'd never have a Brad Meldow track playing while the voiceover was like, barbecues down to 99.99 this week at barbecues galore.
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Maybe the ass kicking championship is to the Brad Meldow trio. What do you listen to on the train back?
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I don't think I listened to anything. When I've done a, no, I put the tennis on.
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That's what I did. I absolutely love tennis and the tennis. Oh, actually, that was one thing.
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I had an email yesterday saying, oh, I've drawn you in the, I mean, I've joined a tennis club.
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I'm not particularly good, but there's an inter-club tournament that happens. I've drawn you in the club tournament.
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Are you free this Friday? And actually, I am free this Friday. I lend all.
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And you're like, oh, no, no. Regards, C. Biggins. Are you serious? I'm serious. Christopher Biggins from children's television.
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I don't think it's Christopher. But a bit of me hopes. You've got to fancy a chance against Biggins.
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A bit of me is going, if it's Biggins, I can beat Biggins. His court coverage can't be good these days.
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If it was Timmy Mallett, I would be severe. His serve famously hammers it down the tram line.
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But Biggins, yeah. He's 76, Biggins. Yeah, I could take him. I could take him. He was a pantomime dame most of the time, wasn't he?
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I think he still is, yeah. So he could be dressed as a dame. Yes.
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Okay, well, good luck against C. Biggins. Is that a best of three sets? Best of three sets, yeah.
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I'm not expecting to win. I'm not expecting to win. Is it clay? Is it like Roland Garros?
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Your normal club. Got it. Cement. Cement-y, synthetic. Yeah, yeah. Painted green surface. Got it.
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Just a real curveball surface. Well, there is the chat about, because with tennis, the surfaces do change.
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And you have to get used to each surface. There has been chat about they should change the surface in other sports.
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Oh, wow. So you get the football sand season. Now we're going to the sand season.
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Oh, don't need that. But not many sports change surface throughout the season. That's a good point.
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Cycling has just, I think the Tour de France has got one off-road, like just not off-road stage, but sort of white roads, they call them in the Tour of Italy.
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Is it Roubaix? Yeah. Is it Paris-Roubaix? That's the Cobbles. Yeah, yeah. That's nice. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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And then the Tour of Deutschland, where they just cycle across Haribo the whole time.
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Yeah. Famously difficult to get traction on the Super Sours. Obviously very different on Star Mix compared to Sour Time Fast Picks.
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It's different tyres. Those giant straws. They look easy. Yeah, yeah, yeah. What time are we back at Didcot?
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So I always try and get the 4.32. Did not get the 4.32. The tube is so hot, everyone was annoying.
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So I got the 5 o'clock and back in Didcot for 5.39, 5.40. Right. And in the car, do you listen to, you know, Drive Time with, yeah, I don't know, Wizzo and Biffer on Radio 1?
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Normally my favourite drive show is Johnny Vaughan on Radio X. He's excellent, very funny.
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But yesterday I had to put the tennis on the radio. I just need to take one step back.
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Tell me about the tube on a really hot day. See, I know this is mundanity for you, but again, we don't have TalkSport.
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We don't have a tube in Dublin that we know of. Maybe there is one that we've just never been made aware of.
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So is it punishingly hot? A secret one. Have you got the windows open at the incredibly loud sound?
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There's no windows. I know, but on the tube, there's the windows between the carriages so that you hear the really loud rattling of the wheels.
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I'll tell you what's never good on the tube is when someone comes through the doors at the end of the carriage.
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Oh, yeah. It's never good news. It's never good news. It's never good news. Someone coming through those.
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That's me. That's just me looking for a friendly face to sit beside and have a chat.
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What are your favourite things about London? Just things that Londoners really enjoy. David, it is awful in the blistering heat.
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The humidity is high in London. Absolutely crazy on a hot day. You're in jeans.
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I'm in jeans, but I have to just put my ears in, just get on with it.
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And are you just before rush hour or is it already absolutely rush hour? Just before rush hour.
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But I know I do it so often that I know if I get in the end carriage at London Bridge, when I step off at Baker Street, I'm right in front.
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I know exactly the place to stand. I'm right in front of the cut through that gets me to the Baker Street thing.
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And then I know exactly the carriage to get on to get off at the right door at Paddington.
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You're a pro. You're a pro. I'm a true tube pro now. Do you get on for free at Baker Street because of your Charlie Baker?
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Well, you'd hope, wouldn't you? Yeah. I know Jerry Rafferty. Yeah, he gets on for free.
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No, but you're absolutely right, David. If your name is the name of the stations.
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Yeah. Yeah. Exactly. Barry Cockfosters. Whoa, we got there at the same time. Radio guys.
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Same time, radio guys. Jesus. Too long. It's been too long. We went for nearly the same name and the same tube station.
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To the listeners who are overseas, Cockfosters is a tube station with a funny name.
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There is a hundred and something different tube stations that they could have gone for, of which 15 have kind of funny names.
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And they both went for that. And it would have actually been funnier if we'd gone for like Tim Piccadilly lines.
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Say them what? That's really funny. Route one. Oh, that made me laugh a lot.
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Do you want to hear more about the travels on the tube, David? All we've had.
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Ah, mammy. Will you tell us about the tube, mammy? What all? When you went to London town.
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The listeners are thinking, this is a guy who's had one piece of apricot jam on toast.
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Oh, yeah. Sorry. And a banana. And a cup and a half of tea. I am trying to eat less.
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I will say that. I am trying to eat less. But this isn't how you do that.
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Just by starving yourself all day. I had a jacket potato with tuna and sweet corn, a bag of peanut M&Ms, and two mint teas.
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That's interesting because in a three-hour show, I would have a cup of tea at one.
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You know, when the music's playing. I have one, two, and I don't have one.
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You don't have one at three o'clock. Oh, right. Interesting. I used to have a three o'clock biscuit.
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I'd bring in some biscuits. I would have a three o'clock biscuit. Really made the last hour sing.
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Yeah. Okay. So we're back home now? Back home now. I know what time is it now?
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6, 6.15. Okay. And I've been going to the gym. I've joined the gym for about three or four months.
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I'm going to the gym. Wow, that's amazing. I am 50 next year. Yeah. And I've been fat.
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I don't know. I've been up and down various levels of fat since my mid-20s.
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Okay. And I don't love it. I'd never put you in that category because you own it so well.
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And you've always been so nimble. To me, you're stocky. You know what I mean?
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Yeah. You're a meaty, a fleshy guy, you know? Yeah. I am sort of a countryside large is what I sort of say.
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It's sort of, I have decided, and it sounds like a midlife crisis. Okay. You can be stocky, but you don't have to be as large as.
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It's when your clothes are pushing the edges of XL. You go, yeah, I don't think XXL should actually exist.
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You don't want to just shop solely at Giacomo. You want to get some of those and some others.
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And also, I am sporty, right? I am sporty. I can run around. I do, you know, I am very physical.
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I'm a dancer, you know, all those things. Very physical. So it's like, you don't really have any.
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It probably is just, you're not doing enough exercise and putting too much in your gob.
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Yeah. Drinking too much beer. So what are we doing at the gym? I put shorts on.
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First thing I do is put shorts on a real treat for the legs. Now, immediately, do you, on putting the shorts on, regret your decision of, like, it seems crazy that you're in Berks with socks, jeans, on the tube journey you've just taken us on.
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I didn't feel too hot all day. No. My temperature was regulated. I love shorts as well.
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If I'm left to my own devices on holiday, I will just be shorts and bare feet till we have to go home.
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So shorts on, kit on. Off to the gym. Okay, we want to hear what I do at the gym.
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Yeah. That doesn't feel very interesting to me. Bare knuckle. He bare knuckles everyone else working at the gym.
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I go in, I knock out the guy on reception. You kick him up the ass.
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Say, turn around. Kick him up the ass. I'll go first, then it's your turn.
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He says to me, somebody did that to me the other day. And also, do you want to buy a keyboard?
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Yeah. I do. 10 minutes on the recumbent bike. Okay. Great. I love cycling, David. I've done loads of cycling.
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I think I've done the Dartmoor challenge, which was sort of 70 miles over Dartmoor. Wow.
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I'm planning to cycle to Paris, that Avenue there, the green road. And the fittest I've been in the last 20 years is when I was doing loads of cycling.
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But I've got a bit of the fear. I've got a bit scared that this is the one exercise I can do where you might not come home.
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Oh, sorry. Cycling on the roads. Yeah. Can you not find, though, a quiet... See, I've got a big 3,000 acre park near me where you can cycle around it infinitely.
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The main danger is by deer, you know, as opposed to cars. Yeah. Also, I will advocate the device that attaches on to the back wheel of your bike.
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There's one behind me. And Bluetooth to your laptop so you can ride famous mountains from the Tour de France, from the basement of your barn.
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Right. I see. Not that you can just go online while cycling. That doesn't seem to help.
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You can do a spreadsheet while you're on the A4. That feels, if anything, worse.
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The problem with the Tour de France this year, they're just on screens the whole time.
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They're just refreshing. They're checking their Instagrams. I've got a rolling road thing. Not a rolling road.
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A turbo trainer, they call it. Turbo. And it's the sweatiest thing I've had in my life.
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And it's in the garage. And I prefer to do it in the winter for some reason.
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Exactly. But I do actually love cycling. And I like the recumbent. That is one where your arse is down low.
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You're almost bobs... No, not bobslaying. But you're sitting on a low stool while pedaling out in front.
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Yeah. I like that at the gym because I don't feel like I'm going to get any sort of saddle sores.
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Yeah. Or anything like that. You know, so I do 10 minutes on that as a warm up.
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And then I do... I've discovered doing weights and lifting heavy weights. And I absolutely love it.
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Really? I don't know if you do it, but it makes you feel so good.
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I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I still do it. And I just feel sad the whole time.
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But it makes you physically feel like you're completely stretched. Yeah. It feels like you're sort of revving up your internal furnace.
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Wow. Wow. That's the name of your motivational book. But also, it's good to be strong, right?
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Strength is key, especially as you get older. Yeah. I guess so. I just... I've always wanted a life where I get this sort of workout through...
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Like even throwing Frisbee with my brother in the park or whatever, as opposed to just...
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Like a 50kg Frisbee. Yeah. The pointless manual labor of... And then the intense atmosphere of gyms where everyone else is looking at themselves in the mirror and...
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Well, this gym is a barn. It's a very nice gym. It's in an old barn.
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There are sort of 80-year-olds in there. There are teenagers in there. There's everybody in there.
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No one's looking at anyone. It's a very nice... It's a real barn life, this.
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Yeah. Yeah. I love barns, yeah. Are you Amish? Although you wouldn't have done the radio.
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I'm Amish. Yesterday, my son told me, you either push or you pull. Do one or the other.
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Don't do both because you're sort of cancelling what you're doing out. I don't know if that's right or not.
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So yesterday, I was pushing. Okay. I did chests, 120 pounds, 50kgs. Chests, two sets of 12.
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Yeah. I lift a heavy ball off the floor to the sky and put it back on the floor 20 times.
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That's my favorite. I had a personal trainer. Have we talked about this on the pod where basically there was like a 50kg big ball when I was probably going to the gym.
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I mean, I just don't go at all now. And he would pick it up and put it on a box.
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Yeah. And I would have to pick it up and put it on the floor.
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And halfway through, I was like, how many billion years of evolution have led to this moment where you are...
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This is a place to watch. Once upon a time, you'd have had to do that.
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But if you do a job where you sit down all the time and just talk...
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You see, what I prefer to do is I have a 50kg toothbrush. Yeah. And I just do my teeth with that.
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Very good. I have any 80s pen that I write books for children with. This is how I get my work.
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You're a duvet. It's made of lead. Very heavy clothes. To walk around in a very heavy hat.
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That's great for your neck. Okay. So you've done all these exercises. Yeah. Loads of exercises.
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Yeah. Exactly. It's boring. This is the other thing. People put this shit online. They talk about their gym workout all the time.
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It's for yourself. It's purely for yourself. You feel the sweet release, though, of post-workout chemicals afterwards.
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So I do a 10-minute warmer and then I do weights for 20 minutes. And then I do 30 minutes on the cross trainer.
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Whoa. That's the machine. There's not just a PT who gets angry. 30 minutes on you.
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I don't trust the cross trainer. I don't trust it. I think it's like breaststroke.
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I'm just not sure it's doing anything. No, you don't think it's doing anything. Oh, I don't hold the handles.
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I don't hold the handles. All right. Do you get on with the feet as well or just stand next to it?
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Yeah, just stand next to it. Look at it. And while I was doing that, I was watching Jack Draper.
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At Wimbledon. Okay, cool. All right. Went home. Yeah. My father-in-law was at home. Okay.
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Oh, yeah. Who popped around to see the family. Okay. Very nice man, Doug. I bought tickets for us to go to the Lords.
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So I told him about that. Is anyone else there? My daughter was there. Yeah.
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She loves her granddad. So that's nice. He was trying. My wife had bought him three pairs of shoes.
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Oh, okay. When you get older, I think shoes is an important thing, right? He's in his mid-80s.
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That's a... Yep. Jim, my father has just recently moved to the wider fitting shoe.
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You know, I guess things kind of spread out. Just spread out as you get older.
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Saga pod. Now we're doing shoe. Shoe talk. Shoe's for 80-year-olds. Yeah. Is this the Nadia?
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You asked what I did yesterday. This is what I did yesterday. It's always a risk, isn't it?
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All human life is here. Okay. So has she lined them up sort of game show style?
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Three in three boxes? Yeah. Three different closed boxes. Okay. Oh, wow. How exciting. Yeah.
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Noel Edmonds is there too. This is good. He chooses two of the pairs. So she did very well.
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Oh, wow. She did very, very well. In one of the boxes is a brick.
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And Mr. Blobby comes out there and just beats him over the head. Yeah, exactly.
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Yeah, that's the thing. What a way out that would be for old people. Oh, no.
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I was going to say, assisted dying is Mr. Blobby and a brick. That's why people thought the bill was quite controversial.
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It feels quite cruel. It doesn't feel as respectful an end as we meant. Jimbo and Hostet.
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You've got three boxes here, just to tell you. How old are you, Peter? I'm 92, Jim.
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You've got terribly wide feet. Blobby, blobby, blobby, blobby. Yes, Jim. I just feel like my life's lost purpose, to be honest.
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I've got older. I feel a bit cut off. You know, I'm not very well.
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Okay. Blobby, blobby, blobby, blobby. Okay, so it takes two of the shoes. This is good.
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Yeah. Okay, let's have some dinner. We had leftovers, which was cold chicken, cold salmon from yesterday, some new potatoes and some capers and rocket.
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You're great. And who's at dinner? Is Doug stay for dinner? Doug stay for dinner, my wife and my daughter.
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But she's already eaten, but she's sitting with us drawing. Okay. Now, it's hot, right?
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Kids love the heat. You know, when we are getting towards 8, 8.30, 100% bedtime. Yeah. She is nowhere near going to bed.
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I remember this. I remember this time, though, because you're like, it's the brightest time of the year.
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Yeah. It feels like you're on holidays. People are having the crack downstairs, probably still.
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Hooray! Hooray! New shoes! Woo! Mr. Blobby's here! Hooray! Go to bed, love. Go on.
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Piss off. Kids aren't going to bed if Mr. Blobby's in the house about to kill your granddad.
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With a brick. Right. And how old is she? She is nine. Nine. Okay, right.
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So, she doesn't want to go to bed. And who's in charge? She doesn't want to go to bed.
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She doesn't want to go to school. She doesn't want to go to bed. She's absolutely lovely, you know.
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But it's sort of done by committee. Right. Oh, in the meantime, my son's come home.
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Stanley's come home. Great. And then gone back out again. He can drive now. So, he comes in, eats something, gets back in the car, goes out, sees his mates.
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That's what happens with teenagers, yeah. I mean, this is now just a day drifting away, isn't it?
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That's what normally happens. This is why we concentrate on the mornings more than the evenings.
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Anyway, what time do you think she went to sleep? What time do you think she went to sleep?
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Ten. It's still bright at ten. So, we put her to bed at nine. Yeah.
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In bed. And she was up and down, up and down, until I'd say eleven.
1:02:21 - 1:02:30
Wow. Classic. Came and lay on the sofa with me while I was watching Bangers and Cash, which I enjoy.
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Is that where Wimbledon champion Pat Cash fixes up old cars? With Gary Bangers. Yeah.
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Gary Bangers doesn't know anything about cars, but they needed someone to go with Pat Cash.
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Of course. Yeah, yeah, yeah. What is Bangers and Cash? Bangers and Cash, they find old cars in people's barn finds.
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You know what a barn find is, David? Yes, I know what a barn find is.
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Charlie will only watch shows based in barns. True. I've said the word barn a lot.
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There's so many barns. Yeah. And they'll do them up and sell them at auction.
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Right. And it's relaxing television. Sure. Has Mrs. Baker gone to bed by this stage?
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Mrs. Baker has gone to watch Love Island upstairs in our bedroom. Oh, okay. Has she...
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I was another aspect of foreign life. Has she gone out with a pitchfork to protest against some modern technology that's coming to the village?
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Someone had an electric sander. I can't watch... It makes me itch. Love Island and those shows that makes me itch.
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I just... I've just got a bit of lost time between sort of dinner finishing and...
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Just Wimbledon. Just tennis. Tennis, tennis, tennis. Trying to get your daughter to bed. Tennis, tennis, tennis.
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Trying to get my daughter to bed. So the constant fight of getting your children to bed is just always there.
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And she came out again at about 11, 11.15. Said, I can't sleep. I'm too hot. All those things.
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So I said, right, lie on me. I did say, have you been working out, dad?
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Is that what she said? She said, dad, your triceps. They're too hard to sleep, daddy.
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You must have been doing so much work on the cross trainer. And did watching some middle-aged man fix up a Ford Cortina from 1978.
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That'll normally do the trick with a nine-year-old. You imagine that everyone's having such fun.
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And then you keep coming out for fake glasses of water. And you're like, I'm going to stay here and join this revelry.
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And it's the grimmest television. I've got a headache. I've got a tummy ache. All those things.
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And then still wouldn't really go. Bangers and cash could also be Pat Cash travels around England eating the best sausages.
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Yeah, that's a good one. Yes. Yeah, that is good. That would be very good.
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A sausage tour of the world of Europe. Yeah. Well, didn't Gok Wan used to call boobs bangers as well?
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Oh, did he? So that could be... Well, that would be nice. Late night with Pat Cash.
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Bangers and Cash could just be... It's quite a... That is basically just paying for sex.
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That's not really a TV show. Jesus Christ. But in his headband. In his famous headband.
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Of course. Yeah. In the 1987 Wimbledon get-up, if that was the year. And so... So she won't go to sleep.
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No. She just won't go to sleep. She won't go to bed. Won't go to sleep.
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It's too hot. When you just give up as a parent, you just go, okay, just stay there.
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I said, why don't you go back to bed and try? Yeah. And she did.
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Went back to bed. And then I thought, oh, I think she's asleep. That's good.
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That means I can go to bed. It's about half 11, quarter to 12. And then I turned all the lights off.
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And then she wasn't asleep. And my wife took over from there and I went to bed.
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Right. My wife went and lay down next to her. Right. Which I thought meant she was just going to sleep there all night.
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Do you think your wife did that because she knew it was your yesterday? And so she was like, I want to be the hero figure.
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I wanted the hero figure. I hadn't thought of that, Max. She bookended the day.
1:05:50 - 1:05:54
Bookend the day. Mrs. Baker is the hero of this. The day sort of fizzled out, you know.
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Charlie, do you think, with the greatest respect to your abode, do you think this is the one time maybe the barn, because I would imagine the barn has a large roof and therefore the heat beats down on the roof.
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You know what I mean? That it does stay quite warm. It does stay warm, but it's because it's, when they did it, what's the trouble with modern, if we want to get into this,
1:06:18 - 1:06:28
it's real. The trouble with modern houses, David. Insulation. The insulation. And it's sort of basically wrapped in tin foil, our house.
1:06:28 - 1:06:35
Right, yeah. So yesterday was particularly hot. That's the hottest it's ever been. Question. Did you have like a cold beer at some point?
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No, I didn't have any drink. I'm not drinking until Thursday, because our son is playing in his band on Thursday, so we know we're going to go out for a few on Thursday night.
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Okay. So I had some Mexican lime soda water throughout the evening, which was very, very nice.
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Sort of just pretending it's a beer. Pretending I'm having a drink. Oh, yes, I'd love it.
1:06:52 - 1:06:57
I'd absolutely love a whole bottle of wine and then another one. And four beers.
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But no, don't do it. You know. Shouting obscenities at bangers and cash. Your daughter lying on your leg.
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Exactly. So, you know, basically got up, went to work, came home, put the kids to bed.
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Is it a good day? It feels like a good day to me. It feels like a nice day.
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It's a pretty average day. It's an average day. And I know that I like my job.
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I love my family. I like being physical. And let's find out how I got on about Chris Biggin.
1:07:26 - 1:07:32
No, it's not Christopher Biggin. It's Christopher Biggin. Playing tennis. I love Wimbledon. You know, so many things you love in that day.
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Yeah. I like it as a day because, you know, in this climate in which we live, the winter is quite different to the summer.
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We're not in L.A. here, whereby there is the short, tense, Irish-y English summer.
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Yeah. It may only last for a few more weeks. And then we're into blinking autumn, basically.
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And in December, you will have almost forgotten. You know, every year the summer surprises me that, particularly when I go to London, that it is just so stuffy.
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Yeah. And this will be a good one to listen to in December, where it gets bright at 11 o'clock and dark at 25 past 11.
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Yeah. You have to remind that you do get your bones warmed at some point in this, you know.
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Yeah. You need warm bones. And you go, oh, God, when it's that long. But I love all, I like all the seasons, David.
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I do suspect it would be easier to bare a knuckle box in the winter, though.
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Yeah, yeah. Just with the added heat and sweat involved. That's what style of fighter you are, I guess.
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I mean, I was the monosyllabic man from the valleys. It just sounded like he was just passing.
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And I've had his arse handed to him by this gritty four-foot Manhattan guy going, put him up, put him up.
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He's like, I just went to get a pint of milk. The Lion in Wizard of Oz.
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I just went to get some milk. What's going on here? I'm going to take you down.
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I'm going to take this guy down. Take the downtown. There we are. At the end of it, it feels boring.
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Like we'd had more of a laugh earlier. But, you know, that's the day, I suppose.
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You look at your life in minutiae and you go, hmm. Common mistake there. This, for some reason, appears as a comedy podcast, whereas it's a purely journalistic exercise.
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Yes, a fact-finding mission with life improvement now. It's become a self-help. And then where do you feel, as people experienced in people's yesterdays, of all our yesterdays, where do you feel I could improve my life?
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Oh, wow. Oh, we're not here to answer those. We're not here to answer that.
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But I feel you put a very impassioned case forward for going to the gym.
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Like the fact that you bloody loved us. Because normally the gym doesn't get that sort of a vibe.
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Especially late at night. Especially late at night. It wasn't too late. It was sort of six-ish, you know.
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The gym after 11 a.m. is just, oh, can't be out. You've got to get up and do it.
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That's the only way I can do it. Obviously, you just slept for two hours.
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That was amazing. Maybe I'm not doing it hard enough. Hey, Charlie. Thanks for coming on.
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Well, thank you for having me. Twice. Two of my favourite people. And I've done this podcast twice.
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The only person. You are. We haven't had a guest back before. You're the first person to do it twice.
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I mean, it's amazing. What a treat. What a treat. Thank you, Charlie. Thanks, Charlie Baker.
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Thank you. Well, I, for one, David, really enjoyed that episode of What Did You Do Yesterday?
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Did you enjoy this episode of What Did You Do Yesterday? I really enjoyed that episode of What Did You Do Yesterday?
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Max? I did too, David. Did you enjoy it? Everything is showbiz. Yeah, me too.
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Did you enjoy it? They're just normal cheeses. Thank you, Charlie Baker. You're a good man.
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