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Podcasts, there are millions of them. Some might say too many. I have one already.
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I don't have any, because there are enough. Politics, business, sport, you name it, there's a podcast about it, and they all ask the big questions and cover the hot topics of the day.
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But nobody is covering the most important topic of all. Why is that? Are they scared?
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Too afraid of being censored by the man? Possibly, but not us. We're here to ask the only question that matters.
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We try and say it at the same time, Max. What did you do yesterday?
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What did you do yesterday? That's it. All we're interested in is what the guests got up to yesterday.
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Nothing more. Day before yesterday, Max? Nope. The greatest and most interesting day of your life?
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Unless it was yesterday, we don't want to know about it. I'm Max Rushden. And I'm David O'Doherty.
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Welcome to What Did You Do Yesterday? Hello, welcome to episode two of Midweek Mayhem.
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Welcome, David O'Doherty. How are you? It's unnecessarily complicated that the non-guest episodes now have their own numeric system.
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I don't know. We're descending into some sort of Marvel universe here where you have to know what you're getting into.
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But, you know, is this the sort of spinoff that is not as popular, but actually as the main, as the main...
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But actually the people who love it, love it even more. And, you know, when we are invited to Comic-Con, these are the people listening to this are the ones that will turn up dressed as either me or you or one of Nish Kumar's shits.
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This is the least ever popular Star Wars spinoff, which is, remember the original Star Wars where they meet the guys in the robes in the desert that have like a variety of clothes
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and a variety of kind of R2-D2s where one's just like a toaster with legs that goes like me, me, me, me, me.
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This is the spinoff series of the life of Toaster Bot 3000. Well, I quite like the idea of, you know, when this gets really big and then people dress as Amy Gledhill's hairdryer, like this is, I think we could be on, this is the merch,
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I guess, that we'd have to sell, isn't it? Hey, should we have some feedback?
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What we've been told is a tight half hour. But producer Mars Bar suggested to record 40 because he thought there might be like 10 minutes of fluff.
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He doesn't know us. If that's it, every second that we deliver, we'll be gone.
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But we're going to make the midweek mayhem a bit shorter. We're going to try at least because, you know, leave people wanting more.
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I think it's the idea. Simon says, well, actually, Joe says this, a review says, my dad has introduced this podcast to me and it's a really good one.
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Keep it up. Season two. Nish was great too. This is from Joe. How old do you think Joe is, David?
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My dad has introduced this to me. I mean, I don't think anyone under the age of 15 listens to podcasts.
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I'm not sure anyone under the age of 20, maybe. When do you listen to your first?
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When's the Fisher-Price, my first podcast player coming out? I don't know. Well, young Ian sometimes comes into this, what he calls dad's office to do some podcasting.
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And I think it's funny that he knows that word. But he's not even three.
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And he sits here and he does some talking into one of the microphones. And sometimes he wears the Guardian microphone on one hand and the talk's got one on another.
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Joe is seven and is listening. Hello, Joe. Welcome. Currently our youngest listener. And Simon says, my seven-year-old son has left a review on Apple Podcasts.
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I'm seeing this as great parenting on my behalf. Maybe this is a gentle way to learn about some real-life issues.
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Yeah. The start of the Dara O'Briain episode would have been a real awakening for father and son.
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That took us by surprise as well, to be honest. To other listeners, Dara wonders why.
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I mean, now I feel like I need to tiptoe around it. He wonders why no one thus far in the podcast has self-pleasured.
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I mean, they may have done. I just don't think it's a journey. I think we've made that mistake before, you know.
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This is... This is from Isabel, Simon and Isabel Rowe from Leeds. Max and David, just wanted to drop you a line to say how much me and my 16-year-old daughter,
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Isabel, love the pod. We listen every Monday, me going to and from work, my daughter as she goes to college.
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We then review the episode and dissect the episode over tea and discuss the big subjects raised.
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Wow. This is real in-depth stuff. You should record that and release that. That could be like our third pod.
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We'd let you have 20%. Do... I mean, big subjects. Big subjects raised. You know, I'm trying to think.
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I know there's a general philosophical... You know, people have analyzed this podcast. I've read some of the online correspondence where they've tried to say there's a sort of Samuel Beckett-type quality to the whole thing.
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But is that not just in, wow, these people's days are so boring. And yet these men insist on going into great detail about, do we raise the big issues?
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Is this the place to come for big issues, Max? Can I... This is a recurring theme, but on the subject of me not knowing anything, when people reference Samuel Beckett, I laugh along as if I know anything about Samuel Beckett.
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The only thing I know about Samuel Beckett is Samuel Beckett was in Quantum Leap.
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But I don't know enough of the works of Samuel Beckett to actually know what people are talking about.
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And I think I'm not alone. I think I speak for the every man here who goes, yeah, it's like a Beckett play.
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But what happens? Nothing happens. Interesting. No, it's more people do stuff and react and snap at each other.
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But I think the central idea is tomorrow, the whole thing happens again. Yeah, OK.
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You know, our like end game is what or take Murphy. The book opens with the line, the sun shone on the nothing new, knowing no alternative.
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You know what I mean? So that it's just this is life every day. We all have these concerns.
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And tomorrow we all have these concerns again. And which is why I mean, to go philosophical for a moment.
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And remember, I have a third class degree in the subject. A third is actually it's harder to get a third than not get anything.
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You have to write your name. You have to turn up and write your name.
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Is that about right? Yeah. In my university in the last year, there's a thing called the general paper where you write for three hours on.
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One essay topic. So it'll be like if you're alone on a desert island, can you commit a wrong?
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And you would write on that for three hours. But a couple of years before me, someone had written.
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What do we learn? The question being, what do we learn from the life of Socrates?
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OK. And he had written for three hours on the life of the Brazilian footballer Socrates.
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Because the thing about life is you need to be specific as to. Who you are talking about and the lessons that we learn from him exactly are the attitude that he brought to football.
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That's a first right there, because you were really, you know, looking at this thing from a fresh angle.
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So my point with this is Irish people do tend to bang on about Samuel Beckett a lot, maybe because people do.
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They don't necessarily read the books or go to the plays, but embedded in our culture is this idea of what it is to some extent, maybe.
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And I think what I do. You take from it is the essence of these podcasts, which is despite the rain and the walks across London and taking your dog for a walk while listening to Football Weekly or whatever it is, there are these moments of joy, these time.
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And these are the things that we need to search for. Do you think the last three minutes will be edited out?
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I think. I think what I take from it is that Samuel Beckett's Irish. So I'm learning slowly but surely about this man.
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I'll read one of his plays. This is a quick story. This is still from Simon and Isabel.
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Just a quick story to add. Following on from the stories of watching things that weren't what you thought they were, D.O.D. watching the making of The Empire Strikes Back, expecting it to be the real film.
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My mother-in-law was looking for something to watch. So we loaned her The Perfect Storm on DVD, chasing her up to see if she enjoyed it.
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She said she thought it was very dull and not much happened. Having watched the film, we couldn't disagree.
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But after deeper Max-like questioning, we discovered she'd actually for one and a half hours watched The Home Screen.
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A scene of a boat bobbing up and down, not realising she needed to press start on the menu.
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Keep up the great work. We hope that once you've been to all of D.O.D.'s phone book, we could have some ex-footballers on from the late 90s.
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Remember, everything is showbiz. Simon and Isabel, thank you both of you. That's great, isn't it?
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It's not really getting going, this, is it? I do know people who... A friend of mine lost her virginity while the home screen played over and over with like extra...
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She remembers seeing like extras, play movies, subtitles, whatever the category is. You don't remember for what movie?
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Yeah, it was one of the early Harry Potters. Oh, God. Which is that quite ominous...
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Whatever that music is. What I don't understand is... Where'd you go from there? From, you know, should we put this on to this is the time, you know?
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Like, actually, I really like you, Brian. I feel ready. But the goblet of fire.
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Emma says, Max and David, I was listening to your Christmas special and realised I have something in common with David.
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I too partnered up with a friend as a child and we tried to set ourselves up with adult jobs.
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This is a reference to your detective... At about age nine, my friend Abigail and I, in search of excitement in our small rural town in Dorset, started the Murderers Gang.
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In hindsight... Contract killers, yeah. A slight misnomer, the nine-year-old. Could they get away with it?
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Well, would they? I don't know. It was a slight misnomer as we were not, in fact, murderers, but detectives for hire.
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We used my rally bicycle to ride around and find clues We did this for around six months until there was an actual murder in our hugely very quiet and boring town.
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We did not solve said murder. The local police did not appreciate our offer of assistance.
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My mum said we had to stop the Murderers Gang. Fun fact, though, as an adult and now married to an Aussie and living in Australia, like you, Max, I'm, in fact, a real-life detective.
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Wow! That's exciting, isn't it? Yeah. So, Emma, you know, that could have been you.
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Yeah. Andrew says, love the pod, keep up the great work, although I think we need some more of your contacts as guests, Max, maybe some 90s footballers or some 2000 indie bands.
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Much love, Emma. So there is a thirst for the footballer. Hang on, back to the detective thing.
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Yeah, okay, yeah. We too went to the police to ask them if they had any spare mysteries as well.
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Andrew says, hi, gents, love the pod. At a time of year where we're all being sucked in by wankers telling us how to live better, it was a tonic to listen to Nish.
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It was a tonic to listen to Nish Kumar having a shit-a-thon and spending the day on the couch.
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David asked to know where we're listening from. I'm listening from a gym in West Hollywood, California, where I'm surrounded by proud shirtless specimens pumping iron.
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Everyone here has earphones in, and I wonder what percentage are listening to you versus, say, Charlie XCX, whoever he may be.
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Is he a high-performance guy? Yeah, he's Charlie XCX. The X's are short for total performance.
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Are they? No. I bet I'd like the cut of his jib. Charlie's very welcome on the show.
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The question is, actually, with Charlie XCX, Charlie XCX was Brat Summer, and the fact that where you are in Australia, it's only the summer now.
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Will Max have a delayed Brat Summer then, a.k.a. winter? I heard the phrase, I never really knew what anyone was talking about.
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Yeah, no one did. It's fine. No. James says, Hi, Max and David. Yesterday I listened to the Kerry Godleyman episode in the gym.
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I rushed home afterwards to try tahini on toast, and I can confirm that it's like eating peanut butter if all the good bits of peanut butter had been removed and only the clartiness remained.
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You don't really eat it as much. Stick it to the roof of your mouth.
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Spend the next hour trying to remove it. Good one, Kerry. I do enjoy the occasion.
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It's an occasional practical joke. Cheers, James. N says, Hi, Max and David. Building on your message a few weeks ago from a farmer who listens while milking her cows, I'm a part-time dairy farmer in the southeast of Ireland,
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and I'm here to double down on the benefits of listening to your podcast while milking cows.
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Wow. For those of you who might know, milking is a tedious, repetitive job, which 90% of the time makes it perfect for the typical information-heavy podcasts on politics, history, et cetera, et cetera.
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A significant problem arises for the remaining 10 minutes and 10%, however, cows occasionally have an annoying habit of shitting everywhere as they're being milked, completely unannounced and randomly, which means that I need to be completely free of distraction to call upon my lightning-quick reflexes to avoid the shit.
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The problem with trying to follow a podcast which covers important or intricate topics is that it's too distracting.
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One minute you're milking away, listening to the rest of history, trying to comprehend the complex set of events that lead up to World War I.
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The next minute, the cows, sensing your distraction, take the opportunity to literally shit all over you Not so much of a problem with what did you do yesterday.
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I've found that descriptions of Hoover attachments, bedtime routines and such, are the perfect level of engagement, brackets minimal, to keep my senses sharp and avoid the random fountains of cow shit.
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Some might say your podcast has saved me from retiring from the agriculture industry because I've run out of clean clothes.
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Many wouldn't, but thank you nonetheless. Who knows, the food security of the nation might rely on what did you do yesterday, continuing, keep up the good work, best regards, N.
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Wow. So that's, there we go. Helps you avoid fountains of cow shit. That, just fountains there, given this city boy, that was a very visceral word to use there.
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What are other listeners doing while they're listening to this? So we've got pumping iron and avoiding shits.
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Noking cows. Yeah. That's the two things we've discovered so far. Right, now we're on to cheese, which I'm very excited about.
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The cheese board mastermind from the Christmas special where I, and do forgive me, I forgot to follow up questions on the cheese board that David had prepared for his family on Christmas day.
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We've had some correspondence before we get to our first guess. Harry says, dear David and Max, happy newish new year.
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I first heard about the show from David's appearance on my other favorite low stakes podcast, The Worst Idea of All Time.
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What did you do yesterday that has exceeded my lofty expectations? I hope you weren't joking when you suggested doing a mastermind board game style guess the Christmas cheese board segment where David tells Max if he got the right cheese and whether it's the right place.
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Perhaps you could call it Curdle. Really good name. Please keep doing the show forever.
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It's exactly what we all need. Lots of love and best wishes, Harry. Although Ben says, hello fellas.
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I've really enjoyed listening to the pod. While I was swimming and listening to the last midweek episode via some newfangled bone conduction headphones.
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Wow. I had an idea. You could call the cheese game, wait for it, Master Rind.
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Anyway, keep doing the pod from Ben. I mean, I think they're both so good, aren't they?
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Curdle or Master Rind? I like, because it is very much the wordle. As Rory said, it should be a weekly wordle format, you know, where you have, you know, it's either this cheese is not there, it's there but not in the right place,
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or green is, you know, this is where it is. Yes. But do you want to call it Master Rind or Curdle?
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Can we call it Curdle slash Master Rind? Yeah, we can. Curdle slash Master Rind.
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Five. Four. Three. Two. One. I've got cheese! This is cheese! I don't know. I don't know the cheeses.
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You did put them in the WhatsApp group, but I wasn't concentrating, and I've deleted that picture from my phone because I don't want to know the cheeses.
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I'm in the same boat as all the listeners. Okay, okay. With the cheeses. Just to let the listeners know, the photo does exist, though.
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So I'm not just going to keep stringing this along forever. Stringing it along like stringing cheese.
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Can I tell you? Can I tell you? This is slightly related. Years ago, BBC London, someone absolutely...
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Terrible, terrible radio idea. I went to the sort of lost property... So police have like big lost property auctions, right?
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If something hasn't been claimed for years and years, you can go and buy it.
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And I bought a suitcase with a, you know, what's it called? I've completely forgotten.
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A combination lock on it? That's it, a combination lock on it. And I bought it for like a pound or two quid.
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So you don't know what's in it? Don't know what's in it. I bought it for like three quid.
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And then the next day on the show, so we interviewed the people going, oh, who's come to this auction?
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There was some nice weird people that went there, but it was quite nice. And then, so on the show on the next day at 6 a.m., we're going to start and I'm just going to keep trying and I'm going to keep trying to open it.
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And then, and like, once we get there, it'll be a big moment. It'll take hours and hours and hours and hours.
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Literally, I just went 6, 3, 8, bing, and the thing opened like after about five seconds. We had a whole show.
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So look, this could, the first guest could get it right. But what I'm interested in, David, is obviously you need to make, a noise.
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Either I tell you the five and then you go, you give me the noises or you do it one at a time.
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So I give you the cheese and you say right place or something like that.
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But I don't know what, I don't know what noises you want to make for this.
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Because this could run for years. This could run for years. Yeah. In thinking for yes, no noises, my brain immediately goes to catchphrase the TV show.
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Yeah, yeah, fine. Wrong is this. Yeah, that's Family Fortunes, isn't it? Oh, is that Family Fortunes?
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So on catchphrase, I remember when you buzz in, it goes like that. It's really good.
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That's really good. And then it would go. Yeah. Mr. Chips. You would see. Yeah, it would.
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But what was the, was it not? That buzzing was absolutely sensational. My God. So what?
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So, okay. So, well, can I borrow the. Yeah. Okay. But we need three separate things here.
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So we need. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Not in it and in the wrong place. No, sorry, not in it.
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Not in it. Yeah, it's uh-uh, yeah. Yeah, in it and in the wrong place.
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Okay. Is, yes, it sort of needs to be a kind of like maybe a bing.
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I tell you. I tell you what would be good. You know, when the special prize in Family Fortunes.
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Yeah. When you said, you know, when it was like something you take swimming and you went goggles and it went, it wasn't the top answer, but it would go bing, bing, bing, bing, bing, bing,
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bing, bing. And that meant you'd won like a weekend in the Cotswolds as well.
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So maybe. Okay. Maybe like one bing is like right play, right cheese, wrong place.
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Right cheese, wrong place. That's a quiz. That's a great quiz. Okay. Well then what's the sound for right cheese, right place.
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Can you remember? I think that's bing, bing, bing, bing, bing, bing, bing, bing, bing, bing, bing, bing, bing.
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Yeah, I think so. Okay. Unless you wanted to say right cheese, wrong place. Cause I just think it's a funny thing to say.
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Okay. It's up to you. You know, when producer Michael said, I will cut out some bits of fluff.
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I wonder if this is, this is the real, is this helping anyone lift a kettlebell?
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I don't. I mean, it is interesting. Which bit he cuts out. Does he cut out my description of the life and work of Samuel Beckett?
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Or us trying to remember the sound effects from catchphrases. Right cheese, wrong place. And then.
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Yeah. Okay. Bing, bing, bing, bing, bing. So the three categories of this. Yeah. Right cheese, wrong place.
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Yeah. Bing, bing, bing, bing, bing, bing, bing, bing, bing. Okay. Great. We got this.
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So you're going to do them after each one. So this is looking at the cheese board from left to right.
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Yeah. I mean, if this was the Japanese version of this podcast and when it's franchised, they'll have.
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You do the cheeses from the right hand side up. Isn't that how you read in Japanese?
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That's how I read it. Yeah. Whereas for us, we'll start at the left hand side and we'll work our way across that.
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Yeah. And we're going from left to right. The cheeses that David prepared for his family on Christmas day.
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Ian Cade is our first guest. He says, I'm on the school run, but I wanted to get in early.
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Now, we did say it's the first guest we get each week. Now, this does give an advantage to people in the Southern Hemisphere because the podcast comes out sort of UK time around 2 a.m.
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Does this? Now, we did on a Sunday morning, but we did discuss, do we change it?
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Or do we say, look, if you're committed to this game, you'll get out of bed.
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You'll set an alarm for 2 a.m. So you can get a guess. Ian Cade says, I'm on the school run.
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I wanted to get in an early guest for David's cheese board. Hang on. My first guest.
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He's on the school run at 2 a.m. on a Sunday. This is a long journey to school.
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Yeah. Okay. Driving them to. Here we go, Ian. My first guess is Cashel Blue.
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Oh, my God. Bing, bing, bing, bing, bing, bing, bing, bing. Wow. Yeah. Right cheese, right place.
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Right cheese, right place. Hang on. This could be the suitcase all over again. We've built this up.
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So much. Oh, wow. That's a great start. So Cashel Blue, in on the left.
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I didn't even know that was a cheese. Aged Gowda. Jarlsberg. I'm 49. I'm in the basement.
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I was thinking the same thing. 25 years of broadcasting. That was some really serious investigation.
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Get the pieces for the Guardian. I won the Perrier Award in 2008. Yeah, keep going.
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Camembert. Gorgonzola. So there we are. I mean, week one. In Wordle, Max, it can be useful when you get the five black spots.
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A lot of the time, you know, wow. We can really go from here. So that's great.
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So we know Cashel Blues. And that's just, it's a four cheese game. Yeah. We're now playing what is known in the trade as a four cheese game.
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I don't know about you, David, but I really enjoyed that. And I can't wait for round two.
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Okay. So that's feedback and cheese. We've decided each Midweek Mayhem to just do one of our days.
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So I'll hand it to you, David. Okay. So what did you do yesterday? And then I'll do one next week.
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So where did you wake up? Tell me. I woke up in County Kerry. So it's the bottom.
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If Ireland's a sideways bear, it's the toes of the bear down there. Okay. Near with the Blarney Stone.
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Oh, my goodness. No Irish person has ever mentioned or thought of the Blarney Stone.
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Yes. It's in the nuts in Cork. It's in the neighboring county of Kerry. I've thought as much.
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And I had done a gig the night before in Killarney. I don't care. I don't care.
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And so I was there. the Helen Copter had come down. And so we woke up together in.
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So my friend, Michael, is a very old friend. And he went rural. You know what I mean?
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He did that thing where at a time when we were all just cyber kids, living in the city, staring at barcodes.
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This was the 90s slash 2000s. He moved down there and lives in this beautiful kind of farmhouse.
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You wake up surrounded by nature, effectively. This is lovely. This is a good. This is a pretty good yesterday.
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What time? What time? Woke up with the sun and then went back. Back to sleep.
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It's the philosophical dilemma of the Tarot Brian episode where he likes to lean into claiming that he woke up at six 30 just because his wife went to work.
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But no, we, we got up not long after we woke up and sort of went into the main farm housey kitchen.
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You know what I mean? Which I love a farmhouse kitchen. It certainly had a fire that was definitely around.
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A real fire and not just an iPad. A big Island. It's got a big Island.
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No, it doesn't have an Island actually, but it had a homemade, like a, not a homemade, but a local craftsperson had made their kitchen table.
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Wow. Fun fact about this, that Michael told me the classic British farmhouse table has the flat bit at the top where that you eat on four legs.
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And then it has a single brace bar down the center of it. That if you like holds the legs apart, sturdy, the Irish farmhouse table has two central brace bars down the front.
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Why is that? Said Michael. I thought about it. I said, I don't know. And he said, because in a wake situation, you can slide the coffin onto the two central brace bars that are underneath the kitchen table.
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This is that was because I was thinking this isn't a fun fact. This is braces on tables, but actually it's a fun fact.
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Someone I, I know was once the, there was a knock on the door. She was having very loud, uh, sexy times with someone else.
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And there was a knock on the door saying, please, can you stop? We're having a wake next door, which has a, is an image that has really, really stayed with me.
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So, uh, Michael and Alva farmhouse, uh, brown bread, this sort of a thing. We've got the, the two dogs.
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We'll they're, they're right beside the beach. So we then go for a walk on the sort of morning loop.
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Lovely. Lovely. I know this is, it's, it's absolutely sensational. We stroll down. And so there is a spot on the walk, where they have a small tin of Ferraro Rocher.
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That's always hidden in the, this isn't, this isn't an Irish traditional thing. Well, uh, uh, it's sitting there as a sort of pick me up treat for the walk.
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Oh, did you know it was going to be there? No, I did. This is the secret Ferraro Rocher.
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I'd done the walk the day before. We don't care about that, but I'd been introduced to the concept of the hidden tin of Ferraro Rocher.
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And I'm, I'm obviously obliged to ask if Michael is an ambassador of some sort.
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We did have a conversation about this very subject with Michael. I think Michael had once met the French ambassador and had asked him whether everyone makes jokes about Ferraro Rocher.
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And he said, yes, every single person you ever meet, they don't ask for jokes.
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They don't ask about the rise of the far right in France. They ask you at every function, does everyone ask if there's Ferraro Rocher, et cetera, et cetera.
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I'm so pleased about that. We do a walk on the, on the beach. Alva, Michael's partner searches for small broken bits of crockery in a, and see glass just in amongst the stones on the shore.
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And when we get back to the house, she's got a giant bucket of just small, interesting colored pieces of glass that she's been collecting on this walk for years.
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I mean, that's good stuff in her office. She has a, a Gannett. So on, on one walk, she found a dead Gannett.
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And I think she, she does this loop twice a day on a loop one, that Gannett was severely unwell.
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And on loop two, it was, uh, it had passed away, unfortunately. And so she decided she wanted to commemorate the Gannett's life.
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So she put it in a plastic bag and tied it up and put it in the deep freeze.
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And then passed it on. That's not commemorating someone's life, is it? It's been very death heavy this yesterday.
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And they brought it to a rogue taxidermist then. Uh, like a bad boy of taxidermy.
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A back alley taxidermist. Who was willing to. How much work is that? How much work is a back alley taxidermist?
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So the, the Gannett, uh, they dive into the sea face first, obviously at, I think 60 miles an hour.
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Like they really smash into it, which is why as they get older, this is another fact I learned, their eyes, basically they start to lose vision in their eyes, such as the pace of the,
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the smash into the water. So she had the Gannett taxidermied into its most dramatic pose, which is with wings back and head, uh, pointing directly.
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You could have one squinting at the letters, uh, uh, and opticians go J six, J P K.
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It's an old Gannett looking at that, going, okay. Uh, so we then had to drive back to Dublin city.
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We said goodbye to our friends in their rural idyll and drove then the four and a half hours.
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We stopped in notorious traffic, black spot, uh, a dare. And we went for lunch in, uh, the village of a dare, which is inside Limerick.
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Which is a traffic spot at all times, but it's also where the 2027 Ryder cup is going to be in this tiny, tiny town, uh, golf premier tournament.
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I know, I don't know what they're going to do though, because this was on a Sunday afternoon and there was, or, uh, there was a lot of traffic.
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We then had, uh, lunch and sitting beside us was, uh, Connor Murray, who is the Ireland, uh, scrum half in rugby.
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Uh, yeah. So were you thinking someone else is looking at you and Connor Murray and thinking, wow, I had a celebrity lunch with David O'Doherty and Connor Murray.
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I was once on a, I was once on a, um, a little bus going from, you know, the airport terminal to the plane.
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And I was stood next to Daniel Craig. Wow. And I was like, obviously a very small demographic of the world know who I am, but it'd be a really great time for someone to like hand Daniel Craig a camera and say,
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could you take a photo? That's what it didn't. It obviously didn't happen. Okay. So there's you and Connor Murray and the tell them was, was Connor dining alone or he was there with,
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uh, his, uh, family. And I, I said hello to him because I, I did once do a gig for the Irish rugby team in camp.
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is this like when the England team bring Ed Sheeran in, they brought you in.
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So wow. To really get them to sing. Did they sing one of your songs just before they played the all blacks in a crucial game?
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So I said, uh, hello to him. And he, yeah, I, I think I, I thought I would have left a bigger impression on Connor Murray, to be honest.
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But did he know who you were? No. So I went, Hey man. And he's nice enough to be like, Hey, good to see you.
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And so there was a, I paused there and I was like, Oh yeah, I did.
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And he was like, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, no, I'm still stiff after the weekend.
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Yeah. So anyway, take it easy. It's fine. He's a great player. Great player. That's, that's what I want.
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And then me and Helen Copter drove the rest of the way. You see, cause we'd loitered with the walk and all the rest of it, having driven back to Dublin,
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then you're kind of like, well, that's it. That's a day that that'll do you.
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And, Helen made a delicious curry type thing with sweet potato that turned out to be entirely vegan.
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Unplanned veganism. Unplanned veganism. Yeah. Felt really, really good. And then a bunch of portion, extra portions of it.
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One of which I'll have for my lunch now after this. And then we watched just, I think we just went around the houses for a while, you know, just, just a bit of this,
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a bit of that. Yeah. We watched some of it. Just channel flicking or like going to different streaming services.
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We watched some of an Irish home improvement show. Oh, okay. That was a strong episode because it's not the big budget of a grand designs.
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No, it's more just a suburban house that you've been in a million times. Bizarrely with a 60 meter back garden.
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That was the extraordinary thing about this. This is so they didn't have enough money to do the thing that the architect wanted to do, but so, so it was slightly unsatisfying.
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So in the end he was like, well, here's what you can do the upstairs as a second phase.
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I'll just do the downstairs. We do the downstairs now such that you can, we'll have something to show at the end of this for the scene where the neighbors come in and we all drink Prosecco from Tesco.
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Upstairs is a total show. It's like covered in dust and asbestos. Yeah. Eagles just picking at the, at the sleeping bodies of their children.
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Yep. And, uh, I mean, yeah, went to sleep soon after that. So that was, that was my yesterday.
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What a day. Okay. So here's some questions just quickly. What did you have for lunch?
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Oh, so in this place beside, uh, lions and Ireland scrum half Connor, Murray, I had an eggs thing.
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I had, I see Turkish eggs around the place a lot at the moment, which is sort of a yogurt.
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He won. Yeah, that was pretty good. The Helen copter had something a little more substantial, but I, I can't, maybe it was a, a toasty of some kind, although she's probably healthier than that,
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but I'll just say a toasty. Okay. Um, would she be sad that you can't remember her lunch or not?
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Okay. Yes, I think so. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. What did you listen to in the car?
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Please get four and a half hours there. Just chat away. Or do you listen to some great tunes?
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I mean, this is awful. We did listen to the, uh, Chloe pets episode of what did you do yesterday?
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Self-indulgent. Did you enjoy it? I mean, Helen copter. Cause like I had a big quandary as to what, cause I wanted to listen to it.
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Cause I didn't listen to it yet. And she said, put it on. And I was like, nah, you don't, it'd be weird.
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Yeah. Can I, can I imagine if there was a car accident or something, it would definitely come out that that's what we had been listening to.
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It was still playing. So yeah. Smoke out. That's where your, your head is against the steering wheel airbag around you.
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You're dead as a dodo. And it's just you asking Chloe pets about perineal source on her perineum.
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Um, yeah, we listened to a bit of this and, uh, listen to the carpenters.
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And did Helen give you, did she give you feedback on the pod? I mean, I don't know who was driving, who wasn't, but were you always like catching a glimpse of she was enjoying it?
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yeah, she was definitely texting a bit. Did she say anything nice about me? She said you were consummate.
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Oh, okay. Yeah. That sounds a bit cold. Yeah. No, I, she was, I didn't really grill her on it.
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I mean, whatever about having this thing on, which is, which is wildly self-indulgent. I feel it'd be even worse if I kept being like, and what do you think of that bit?
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What do you think of Max? What do you think of me? Here's a multiple choice page.
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Can you fill this? And final questions. Did you, did you come back thinking, why don't I live in the, in a massive old pile in the country with an enormous table?
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Yeah. Cause whenever I go to the countryside, I think that, and then I, four days later, I think I can't be here.
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I've got to, I've got to get back to the big smoke. Yeah. I definitely have a country part cause my granny spent a lot of time living on an Island off the West coast.
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So I do, I'm, I am drawn to that life, but I also do love the four different options of latte that I can get.
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I could not be able to walk to a cafe. You've got to be able to walk to a cafe.
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That is like number one for us. Number one is, can you walk to a, then we'll start thinking about size of kitchen.
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Our kitchen is so tiny that you cannot sit on a chair that isn't in the way you're either in the fridge, in the dishwasher, in the oven.
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Like you can't like they're the, and the other side is Ian's. Then you're in a high chair.
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So you're either in a high chair, in the fridge, in the dishwasher, in the oven.
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It's very unsatisfactory. So for your wake, we're going to have to just put you into the dishwasher.
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I'm going to have to be, I'm going to have to be the only way I could fit there is if I stood up straight.
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If you, if you had me erect, just standing up mounted, it's the only way I'd be possible.
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I wish I love having friends who live in a place like that, such that I can go down there.
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I do. It's definitely very good for me and my brain to go for a walk on the beach every morning.
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Like imagine if this podcast I was doing it now and I had sand in my shoes from having just been for a walk could be, an even better podcast than this.
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That is we've, we've failed to do what we said we do, which is record, you know, a really tight, cause we've done 53 minutes.
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So officially, officially listeners, we've done 50, 50, almost 54 minutes. You may have been given 35 minutes. That is for you to realize quite how much Michael rates the things we say.
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And that is for the record there. So yeah, let us know. Let us know how long it is.
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Excited to find out. Thanks, David. Curdle slash master rind. I mean, what an opening that was.
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Cashel Blues straight up. Yeah. And then I do think people will be thinking about it now.
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What? There's four spots. These are not super obscure cheeses or anything. Don't give any clue.
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I don't want no clues. No clues. Okay. Okay. Fine. No. Okay. On we go.
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Laughing cow. Dairy Lee. Baby bell. Craft tree slices. Yeah. If you'd like to have a guess, what did you do yesterday?
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It's too late now. Someone else has had the first guess, but someone has to be the first.
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What did you do yesterday? Pod at gmail.com. Thank you, David. Thanks, Max. We'll chat Sunday.