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Podcasts, there are millions of them. Some might say too many. I have one already.
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I don't have any because there are enough. Politics, business, sport, you name it. There's a podcast about it and they all ask the big questions and cover the hot topics of the day.
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But nobody is covering the most important topic of all. Why is that? Are they scared?
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Too afraid of being censored by the man? Possibly, but not us. We're here to ask the only question that matters.
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We try and say it at the same time, Max. What did you do yesterday?
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What did you do yesterday? What did you do yesterday? That's it. All we're interested in is what the guests got up to yesterday.
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Nothing more. Day before yesterday, Max? Nope. The greatest and most interesting day of your life?
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Unless it was yesterday, we don't want to know about it. I'm Max Rushden. And I'm David O'Doherty.
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Welcome to What Did You Do Yesterday? Hello, and welcome to What Did You Do Yesterday?
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Today's guest is Natalie Cassidy, the first guest not to have stayed in your house, I believe, David.
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Very exciting. A national treasure. She obviously grew up on our screens as Sonia Fowler in EastEnders.
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She did Strictly, Celebrity Big Brother, Loose Women. She has a hit podcast called Life With Nat.
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And we've already done this episode. David, I think you. You were nervous about talking to someone you didn't know.
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I was never against it. I just, for the record, just while we figured out what this podcast was, I thought it'd be good to get people that I knew.
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So it was very nice to talk to Natalie. Yeah, and it's a great episode, and she is great, and this is what she did yesterday.
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Natalie Cassidy, welcome to What Did You Do Yesterday? Thanks for coming on. My pleasure.
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How are you both? We're very well. Well, I can't speak for David, but he seems well.
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I am okay, but that's not relevant to what we're talking about today. I'm sorry.
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What we care about is the life of Natalie Cassidy. That's all we care about, nothing more and nothing less.
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Yeah, okay. For the next three weeks, we will be interviewing you about this, and we'll edit it down so it appears to be one chunk, but we'll be following you around asking you questions for three weeks.
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What time did you wake up yesterday? I woke up around 20 past six, but I do always snooze.
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Right. So I had a little snooze. Did you intentionally wake up? Did you have an alarm at 6.20?
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Yes, I had an alarm. I do an alarm for 6.20, I do an alarm for 6.30, and sometimes a 6.40.
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Okay, big. All right. It's a big one. It's only because at the moment, while I'm working from home at the moment, children are older.
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They can get up. They entertain themselves in the morning, so I don't have to rush around and get up super duper early.
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So I was treating myself. Ah, now let me just go into some definitions of treats right here, Natalie.
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6.20. I don't think I've been up at 6.20 since I got a very cheap flight to Portugal after a breakup a few years ago.
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I think that was the last time I got up that early. So treats, why wouldn't you just get up at 6.40 though?
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We talked to Sam Campbell recently, and the moment he wakes up- I love him.
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He tries to get daylight. That's his thing. He heads straight out. So would you not set it for 6.40 and then run outside, or do you feel you need that 20 minutes?
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I just like being in bed. I enjoy my bed. So I wake up, and even though I'm a little awake, I'll have a little cuddle with Mark, and I kind of lay there and think about the day.
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That's how I like to gently wake up. I like to presume that Mark is your other half.
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That's correct. Yeah. Okay, good. I agree with you. I mean, a bed is the greatest.
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It's like a warm square where no one bothers you, and I don't understand why more people aren't just into it.
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I have a toddler, Natalie, and he's getting close to dropping his nap. I'm so sorry.
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I'm in no position to drop my nap. I don't think I'm ready to drop it, and when he does, I'll be devastated.
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I'm a big napper. Wow. Maybe there was a nap yesterday. We don't know yet.
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It's exciting. Okay. So 6.20. The 11th. Then you had a 6.30. Yeah. Was this a 6.40 day, or you weren't going wild for yourself?
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You were just, it was a, what happened? I fell asleep until half past seven.
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Oh, magic. Wow. Woke up, panicked. Right. Because my brain knows that Eliza needs to get to school, and I went, shouted, and she wasn't out of bed because I opened the door up.
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Oh, Eliza. That's my 13-year-old, by the way. Were you panicking, though, because you knew you were going to be doing this podcast, and you were like, oh, I could have done some cool stuff between 6.40 and 7.30.
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You could have got in a few bits there. Was that at the forefront of your mind, Natalie?
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No, because I didn't know I was doing this until nine o'clock last night. Which actually is the perfect booking, because you went into this day blindly without knowing that every single one of your actions was going to be forensically analysed by the two most
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oppressive journalists that Great Britain and Ireland has ever produced. You didn't know this was going to happen.
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I'm pleased I didn't know. Let me just fill you in with one other piece of history of this podcast, Nat, which is James Acaster did it.
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And I had asked him at maybe 11 a.m. the previous day, and I said, it's this podcast with Max Rushden.
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So the first thing he did, and he spoke about this in the podcast, he Googled Max Rushden to see who he was and what terrible things he'd done in his life.
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It's actually worth asking, Nat, if you did, did you Google either of us yesterday once you were, after 9 p.m.?
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No, I didn't. You just trusted whoever, the anonymous person that approached you to do this podcast.
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Absolutely. It's absolutely fine. I love pods. I'm in for a penny and for a pound.
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Right. Okay, so 7.30, you've lost your shit. You've yelled at Eliza. She's asleep. You're asleep.
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Mark is just lying there like a big bear. The whole thing is a disaster.
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It was a shit show. So where's your phone? Is it right beside the bed?
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What's the first thing you do? Do you check? Do you check it or do you try not to look at that in the mornings?
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I try not to look at that in the morning straight away. How's that go?
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We all try not to. Well, because the alarm's on it. So immediately I'm snoozing it or pressing it to stop.
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I really try not to go on it. I'm quite good, actually, for the first half an hour of the day.
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I try not to go on there. It's funny because sometimes if you read something particularly annoying, I find I'm susceptible to small annoying things at that time of the morning in the same way that an earworm can get into your head.
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If you read just like an annoying story about, say, a bunch of cars that have had the air let out of their tires near where you live or something, I'll just be walking around for the whole morning.
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God damn it, the tires thing. Well, this is a problem, you see, because I think whatever you look at on that phone, first thing, can change your mood and set you up for the day.
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You know, sometimes if my podcast, Life With Nat, which is out on a Monday and a Thursday, I'm not sure if you know that.
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I didn't, but I'm now excited about it. Have a go. But if that's out, I might want to jump on and maybe do a quick video to say it's out today.
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I'll have a look at, you know, I'll put a post up or a story.
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I'm an Instagrammer. Right. So I don't really scroll. I'm not a TikToker. It's too fast for me.
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It blows my brain. Can't do it. So I go onto Instagram and I use that, but I think I use it pretty healthily.
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If I'm honest. That's good. I'd also like to say, Natalie, I think your use of Instagram is healthier than Max's who, while the Euro football thing is on, he just holds the camera in front of his Australian partner who knows
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nothing about football whatsoever and makes her guess who's going to win between Albania and Slovenia in the game today.
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That sounds quite fun though. I quite like that. She's actually doing better than me.
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So 7.40, it's a shit show in the Cassidy household. Yeah. Do you rectify it or you just roll with it?
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Well, you have to rectify it when you've got children, you can't just give up.
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It's a great advice. You know, that's good self-help. There's nothing you can do about it.
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I know. You've got to wait till like, it just only gets worse by the way.
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Oh, it feels bad already. And so, you know, I know I'm on a, I'm on a slippery descent.
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It only gets worse. It's a slippery slope. Yeah. Anyway, there we are. So my nanny turns up, lovely Laura, so I'll hold care.
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Okay. And she was taking Eliza to school, which is about a 20 minute journey. So she turns up at about 7.35.
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Eliza has whizzed around. She's amazing. She's very, very good. She was up, ready, 10 minutes, off they go.
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Wow. Hang on, are you dressed? No. No. No. You've got some kind of robe, I presume, like with NC.
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Do you have an embroidered robe? What's the situation? I have a lovely silk, silk green robe.
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Do you? A friend of mine bought me for my 40th birthday. I have one dressing gown and it's a thermal winter dressing gown.
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Do you put that on in the 32 degree heat days? Yeah, I do. And then I go down and make coffee and almost every single time I end up doing this thing where I kind of drop the shoulders out of it and just have it tied around my waist
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at the back. Oh, how unattractive. If it goes, the postman, let's say, has only ever come once and seen me in it and never returned.
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I was going to say, fuck me, I bet he didn't come back. I think it's attractive, David.
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I would like to see it just for some balance. Do you have a robe?
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I don't robe. No. No. No, I find them, I find them quite oppressive things.
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I find them, either they're too hot or they're a bit flappy. I'm really, I'm just boxer shorts and then as soon as I wake up, I just put the first clothes that I see that are on the floor back on.
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Interesting that, sorry, let's just go a little deeper here into Max. Do we have to because we're only on quarter to eight?
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Yeah, that's a good point. You've got to hurry us along here now. You're right.
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You've got things to do. What about the winter though, Max? Are you not dressing down in the winter?
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What are you, sleeping in your jeans? I'm always sleeping just in my pants and then I might, trackies, I might do a trackie morning.
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Oh, gross. And then I might keep them on. I've got to an age where I don't mind leaving the house.
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Trackies on. I am with you. I am getting to a stage in my life, I'm 41 and I don't think this is healthy for a young lady.
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No. I can get up, chuck on an old t-shirt and a pair of leggings and as long as my teeth are brushed, I can leave this house, my hair isn't brushed,
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nothing is done. Apart from the old teeth that I don't like, that we've cleaned, I go out and I couldn't give a shit.
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Yeah, head held high. You've got clean teeth, no nothing else. Don't care about the clothes, don't care about the hair.
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We've got rid of Eliza. Is there silence in the house now, Nat? Well, tell us the atmosphere in the house at 7.35, which is what we've got up to now.
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It's fine. Okay. I'm up, we get a coffee on. Okay. And then Joni is seven.
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Right. The second child. Yeah. She's pottering around. She's a very, very busy child. So there's no sitting quietly, the piano's going or she's writing a book or she, needs to talk to me.
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She's like Richard Osmond. She is. She's creating a board game. Genuinely, she's Richard Osmond.
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She's just not a child yet. She's hosting Pointless. She said to me the other day, I want to be a presenter like Anton Deck and Claudia Winckelson.
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Good idea. Which I quite liked. So I said, go for it. What's she playing on the piano?
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Do you think she's, is she trying to play her version of a hit or is she improvising?
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She's just about to do her grade one piano. So I have to say to you, she's super good for seven.
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I'm very proud of her. So she's tinkling her three songs. I'm getting a bit bored.
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The three songs, she's definitely ready for the exam. Looking forward to her moving on from those pieces.
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To grade two. If we're real though, anyone with hands can get grade one. How dare you?
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Oh my goodness. I don't know if I could do it, you know. I reckon you could.
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Is grade one No, it's I wish I could prove it to you. I didn't mean that in an aggressive way.
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I think you did. I'd like to apologise. No, no, I think you did. That's fine.
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Grade six is when it you know, that's when it gets heavy. Max thinks he knows about the music industry because he once played the clarinet at the Apollo with Amy what's her name from Scotland?
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Amy Macdonald. Amy Macdonald. He thinks he knows about the music biz. But I don't know about the music biz generally.
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You're waxing lyrical about grades. Okay, so your second child I've forgotten their name. Joni.
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Joni. So Joni is that's a lovely name actually. Joni's there playing the piano writing a book optioning, you know TV shows deciding, you know commissioning TV shows for people like us or just saying actually we like it but we're going to develop it with Jason Manford
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and what are you doing? At this point I go and sit at the counter in my kitchen so I have a bit of a counter.
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That's nice. I have my diary. I have a paper diary. Yeah, me too. A lot of people take the piss out of me for that.
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I don't use my phone for dates and things. I like it laid out. I like to write it down.
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Can I ask you a question? How often do you lose the diary? Because I lose mine maybe once a week and I'm terrified.
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Never. Never. It's quite large. A3. Yeah, it's an A1. It's roughly A5 actually. Yeah, it's a good size.
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And it's gold. Oh wow, nice. It's called a mum planner. Oh yeah. Do you like that?
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I do like it because it has columns for everyone. Oh good. So there's a column for Mark, there's a column for me, the children and the nanny.
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So I can be really organised and write what everyone's doing. That's great. Do you put the nannies like when she has free time, do you put that in the diary or is she allowed to keep that private?
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She can keep that private. Okay, great. When you were asked to do this podcast last night at 9pm, did you put us in the diary?
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No, but I will do later. Yes. A retrospective. That's great. So you're at the counter, you've got a coffee, you're just having a black coffee.
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How do you have it? I... This is a long story. Well, I'm here for it.
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Great. That's exactly the whole point of this whole podcast is just about to happen.
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I usually have an organic semi-skim milk. Uh-huh. But lately I've been using an animal fat.
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Whoa. Which is a grass-fed butter creamer. Oh, God. An MCT creamer instead of milk.
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Is that a powder? It's a powder. So I chuck a bit of that in first, a little bit of collagen powder, and then I pour in my black coffee and give it a whisk.
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It does remain a bit lumpy. Oh, God. It's meant to be good for you.
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This morning I've got a normal one with milk and I have to say I'm enjoying it.
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Yeah. So what's prompted you to start putting lumpy cow something into your coffee? It's meant to be good for women at this age.
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Really? Yeah, I just went with it. Collagen's meant to be good for you so you don't get tinkly.
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Mm-hmm. I'm not really into all of that stuff so I thought I'd better start doing something because everyone knows.
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Okay. So it's sort of it's a half-arse where everything else is like deep fried and as long as your teeth are clean but you just have a lumpy coffee and you think that'll probably That'll help me.
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I just had a like once a year to go and just have my poo tested and my blood tested and to check I'm not dead.
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Oh yeah. And again I'm not dead so it's good but I do have high cholesterol.
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Oh no. That is a middle-aged thing. I want to know what Max's doctor told him he had to cut out though.
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I didn't say anything. I've just got a text going still a bit high. See you in a year.
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But they will say cut out prawns. Prawns are high high in cholesterol aren't they?
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Prawns are they? I love prawns. Oh no. I can't eat prawns. Me neither. Don't know what the fuss is about.
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I love prawns but they don't love me. What do they do to you? You don't need to know.
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They say bad stuff online. They're mean. Okay so you're at the counter you've got your diary you open the diary to see what's happening is that?
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Yeah I've got the diary open and I'll bring my laptop downstairs as well and I'll sit there.
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Since doing the pod I have a a big part of the pod is a business WhatsApp number because I have all the general public text me they message me and they voice note me.
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All of them? And what sort of questions do they ask you Nat? Well I ask them things and then they come back so I'll put a video out and say in two days time I'm doing an episode on mum guilt so send me your messages
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and thoughts on mum guilt. So I wake up and there's like 98 messages on there so instead of doing it on my phone which I started to do then you're continuously on your phone looking at strangers messages which is rather odd and Mark said
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I know you really love this pod but it's kind of annoying now because you're actually permanently on your phone listening to strangers so what should we do about this?
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So I've now downloaded the business WhatsApp to the laptop I don't look at it on my phone so yesterday morning I sit down I go right let's have 45 minutes and I go through them all and sift them into folders for different episodes Oh wow I really enjoy it
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yeah I love it Do you feel the need not to respond to each one even just with a with a heart or a thumbs up I try to but you know it's really hard to get through all of them and you can't beat yourself up about that
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you can't Wow Are you often sent gifts from this? No No Alright so you do 45 minutes of I'm hoping for a dressing gown I just want a dressing gown to be sent to me So you do 45 minutes of replying to strangers about specifically mum guilt
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yesterday or just anything? Yesterday was mum guilt and holiday stories and then just general correspondence about how they're enjoying it and what have you like in the past how they're listening how they're now listening to me more than they do parenting hell Wow Well that's big That's big
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Let's get those fuckers That's what we're all after So is Jodie on summer holidays?
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Jodie's in and out Jodie's running about She pops in She'll have a yacht She'll have a yoghurt out the fridge She's a grazer is what I like to call her like me So people say Oh you know it makes me feel really guilty sometimes that I'm not that
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We don't lay the table for breakfast and there's cereal and granola and yoghurt and you know pints of fresh orange juice and we all sit around for breakfast That doesn't happen in my house Nothing's laid Someone gets a bagel They go in another room Jodie's
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She's like a bit of a little cave lady She's crazy and a mouth covered in sort of plum juice What have you had?
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She goes I've had some blackberries some strawberries I've had a couple of yoghurts I'm fine And occasionally she just goes into the garden and just comes back with a fox just in her mouth She makes it into sort of a scarf Yeah You know when they
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tried to take down the US government She was there with a fox's hat on They were like that's Natalie Cassidy's daughter What's she doing?
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Trying insurrection Trying to bring down American democracy So we're up to nine It's been a good start to it so far I hate to give advice but I think we need some daylight Do we go out?
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Nat, what do you see as the next thing? Right, okay We've done the gold book We've done the laptop I didn't go out yesterday Oh What?
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Outside once? No Are you in a palace? Or prison? I really love my house Yeah, that's great that you do I love my house so I can be in my house I could be in my house for a week and not feel worried about it Wow
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And I include the garden You could be inside for a week Yeah, I could be inside for a week Wow I love my garden as well but yeah, I could be inside Wow, okay
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So you go from the counter We've just had this extraordinary inside day I think it's the first ever totally inside day we've ever had This is marvellous I'm really racking my brains to make sure I'm correct It was only yesterday It's worrying this pod, isn't it?
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Yeah, it is Yes, that's true It's really worrying Nat, you haven't eaten anything yet We've just had the weird lumpy coffee I won't eat anything until, well, carry on the day and I'll let you know Great idea It's worth saying for the tape that Natalie has her fingers
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on her temples to try and remember everything It's like she's trying to talk to herself from yesterday It's like a seance of yesterday It's quite relaxing actually doing that I thought this was going to be fun but it's quite stressful Yeah, it is We're sorry about that
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Okay, so you've done the diary You've replied to these people What happens next? So I say goodbye to Mark My other half is filming He's a cameraman He's doing Wimbledon at the moment So he's on centre court filming No way He's on centre court He is
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Do you know which angle he's at? Is he right behind? They rotate Oh, do they?
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Okay There's eight cameras Ten cameras I can get it wrong He'll shout at me But there's quite a lot of them on centre court and they all rotate round Because behind the tennis player much easier than side to side isn't it?
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That is just you standing still all day Yeah, that's your wide shot Yeah When you're playing he'll say I'm on camera five and then when we're at home me and the kids play Where's Daddy?
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It's like what camera? And you point him out on screen and I really like it because as much as we don't see him for two weeks because he's so busy because you've got it on and it's such an event you kind of feel like you're together
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Oh, that's lovely It's quite sad isn't it really? No, I think there's a beauty in that Yeah, absolutely It'd be nice if he had a signature move that he'd do so you'd be like at 3.30 do your wiggle Yeah Lee Djokovic would just start bouncing up and down
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My wife sent me a lovely video I was doing the hosting and that's in Sydney and we live in Melbourne and he saw me on the TV and he poked the screen and went da-da and she sent me the video and then an hour later
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she sent me a video of a I would say 70-year-old newsreader and my son did exactly the same thing Brilliant Right, so Mark's gone got rid of Mark this is great you're just losing family members like until the day it can be yours Yeah, so I've said
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goodbye to Mark the girls were at school oh I didn't put in that Mark took Joni to school at quarter to nine got it because I'm still in my I don't want to go out I'm like have you got time to I know you're going to do
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a 14 hour day but have you got time to drop her off he's so good to me so yeah he dropped her off and then I've got the house to myself which is lovely great it's peaceful so I then start my favourite bit of the day
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I chuck on radio too yeah I do my Alexa play BBC radio too yeah that goes on quite high yeah and then we start tidying and cleaning can I just say that now you've said that on this there's a high chance that anyone who's listening to this podcast
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is now going to now be listening to Vernon Kaye okay Alexa off there I think I've sorted it now Alexa listen to Life With Not yeah good that doesn't play by the way that doesn't work which is annoying does it not work no
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something I need to sort out it must be hard for Alexa Chung she's so busy I don't feel she's had a great life but it must be annoying because every time anyone rings her or tries to talk to her various Alexas just come to life then
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oh it's so true I thought you were suggesting that she's like manning a kind of 1920s telephone exchange she is Alexa when anybody says Alexa play this she's actually got to do it well then maybe it's possible Siri is like Siri and McKellen that's true you know Siri
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Ian McKellen yeah and that's why Siri's a bit slower because Ian is not as sharp as Alexa Chung at getting these getting these things done but it's good that humans are still being employed in no it's good that they're being used okay so
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do you have a tidy tactic are you like just see something clear it up or do you have a strategy the first thing to remember about being in a house with a teenager is you don't enter their room at all oh unless you have to okay
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so sometimes I enter the room with care it's very dark there's makeup and just paraphernalia everywhere and you have to sort of fight your way through there's towels on the floor there's stuff around you know I'll scramble for dirty washing okay
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I'll grab the dirty washing and I'll flush the loo right because for some reason the loo never gets flushed oh no is the loo an en suite thing or does she just have a loo in the middle of her room okay that's good to know so that's that
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so get the washing and then I'll I go from room to room collecting dirty washing so I'll go into Joni's room then I go into ours and by the end of it I can't see I'm going down the stairs with a large pile it's not good with dyspraxia
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no I have to see where I'm going I have to look step get down the stairs I chuck that down put some washing on then I'll sweep the floors and then it's general putting things away okay
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I don't like stuff out yep so everything's got a home so I put it all away I clean some surfaces I wash the floor by then it's about quarter past ten boys what's the best song that you heard on Radio 2 while this was happening?
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Zoned Out couldn't tell you just noise is that a new band Zoned Out? I don't haven't really followed music since now 26 but I mean I would definitely if someone said this is Zoned Out and couldn't tell you I would say that's definitely a song sounds like one
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yeah it does doesn't it okay so it's taking you to another place that's beautiful in a way you've had it on you know makes me think about all my radio work you know really put the effort in and a day later now I can remember
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a thing I've said Max I listen to your football broadcasting or whatever you podcasting yeah while doing fixing bikes a lot of the time there's been I wouldn't say emotional times in my life because that would be bad if you were falling in love and you had
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Guardian Football Weekly on in the background but Max your work has helped as Nat's podcast on a Monday and a Thursday will for a lot of people I think for a long time Max you've occupied this role in my life where even before I met you
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I knew you you know oh thanks that's kind it's not about me this podcast though oh sorry no I got distracted there right so we've got to quarter past ten okay
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we're sort of halfway through the podcast and we're quarter past ten it's fine we find that people's days speed up unless that's just a production issue that we've had that's okay
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it's a large chunk of my day that I can't talk about so that'll be fun oh did you kill a man what's come on you can tell us a bit what car calm yourselves down yeah okay
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quarter past ten I come up here come up here and I do a correspondence episode with my lovely producer Emma so from ten thirty till about half past eleven quarter to twelve I'm in this room and we record a pod great so that's that brilliant lovely messages
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see you later Em get off the phone that's that I then go downstairs by the way when have I got changed I'm not in my robe anymore by the way well I mean you have to tell us this Nat I'd say when you went up to teenagers bedroom
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I think you might have around that time just gone I think you're right yeah that's very very clever of you I'd love if you dressed in her clothes and you're now wearing like a Fila tracksuit a bum bag whatever the kids are wearing it's funny you say that
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loads of times I whack on her tracksuit buttons quite a lot of the time without telling her yeah she nicks my stuff all the time so why shouldn't I nick hers but you're not nicking it in a way like you dress as her
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and then just before she gets home you get out of her clothes you do it publicly yeah yeah it's a public thing what have you got dressed in this is exciting how are you dressed for the podcast this is so stressful this is more stressful than the chase
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yeah I love it is that the most stressful moment of your life you've had a great life I've got to say that it's the most stressful thing ever I bet under the pressure of the lights which one were you up against Mark the Beast
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how did you get on it was a shit show oh no oh no what did you get wrong everything everything awful I'm an intelligent human being and I can sit and I can converse I can chat away I enjoy you know conversation I enjoy quizzing
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but once you're in that television studio I think one of the questions was oh no what does a bride have on the back of her dress and I said a veil instead of a train really bad it was poor it was poor which fellow celebrities
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did you let down Chris Akabusi and Emily Maitlis who was who did who was on your team I've done two podcasts yeah in the last couple of days yeah and Chris Akabusi has been what's going on with Chris Akabusi at the moment I love Chris Akabusi right
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me too and people I think just use him because his name's funny and I don't think that's fair no I think they use him because he's got good energy you don't think because Akabusi is a great name to say oh it's a great name to say all right
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so you've done that you're dressed you've done that correspondence episode I was in a pair of jeans with a hole in the knee great because I remember now that it was aggravating me you know when they fray and then it hurts oh yeah I was in those
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and just a t-shirt I went downstairs finished my correspondence episode went down made another coffee did a bit more work on the laptop and then at 12.30 here we go I did the guestimators podcast what happens in that one was that the day before
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no this is taking me out guys I might have to get my diary oh the big old book no it was the day before my apologies forget that I then started doing something from one until five yeah which I genuinely can't tell you about and I'm really sorry
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oh this is good so Max is a proper journalist now I'm not gonna try and find out what this is because I respect what you've said but just look out for Max he's gonna use some tricky journo technique just to be like oh by the way
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no what I think is I think obviously you don't have to tell us what you did you know it was four hours yeah were you on a zoom call for four hours or were there people in your house no one was in my house
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I wasn't on a zoom call I put Wimbledon on yeah very very loudly because I haven't got a television were you disposing of a body so you get the volume up really loud and every time they hit a forehand you get the hammer four hours it takes
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it does take longer than you think I think I've got I've got two kitchens wow it's a long story I'm not going into it don't worry I'm not a show off no my dad used to live with me so I have an annex on my house
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and I have a smaller little kitchen so it's a one bedroom flat if you like on the side of my house and that's where daddy used to live so he's not with us anymore so now I've got this sort of other kitchen that I use for other things
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right so I was in there yeah for four hours were you filming it I wasn't filming it I was in there and I I needed to be in there and I needed to do stuff in there my back was killing me at the end of it
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and all I will tell you is I was disappointed with what came out this is good I like this were you birthing a calf I mean stop not you not you personally I'm like I'm like some veterinary work I am afraid for professional reasons and I'm a very
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professional person yes I really cannot go into those four hours that's all I can say I had a backache I was very disappointed in myself I was baking hot and I really did have I had the hump once I'd finished okay
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this is the first time we've had this where there is a genuine gap in the day and I like it though well I'm really sorry but you did pick it was like one o'clock last night I don't know what to say to you
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I'm not going to lie to you I might the Cassidy four hour window it's like it's a it's a thing it's amazing can I just ask if we got any other day would there have been a four hour stretch when you were in your second kitchen
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getting back egg that you also couldn't tell us about or is this like this is a one off if you would have done this within the last fortnight there would have been a possible three or four hour window where I was in the same room wow
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any other time if we would have done this in two weeks time yeah no never and okay here's my only other question and not do you think when this comes out people will be able to work out what it is are we going to look foolish
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because the listeners will be like oh I see what she was getting at how did they not guess it there could be a little bit of that coming on wow it's four o'clock five o'clock five o'clock you have been on your feet so you'd like
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a little sit down no sit down clean the whole kitchen some very tidy person so that all gets cleaned up floors swept it's about 20 past five now I move into the main part of the house and I pour myself a gin and tonic great good for you
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have you had a meal yet today oh I did I did stop before entering the kitchen I stopped and I had my favourite type of lunch go on I had half an avocado some lovely juicy kind of plum not the cherry tomato not a large medium size
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I know the ones four of those all chopped up lovely green proper olive oil salt on those half an avocado a little bit of chicken a little bit of hummus and a little wholemeal pita oh yeah yeah well
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I quite often have a similar lunch which I call the beige plate so try and try and lose avocado is beigey I guess but you know I might have a tomato if I'm feeling well
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hold on a second sorry avocado is green not he's he's getting the cheapest avocados he's getting the ones the ones that are like down to 20p he's not getting a waitrose avocado is he an organic one not though I miss waitrose that's the thing about Australia
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I miss waitrose there's no waitrose in Ireland so is waitrose it's sort of just one under M&S I'd go no no no I'm gonna sorry I'm stopping you there wow I know my supermarkets right hit me hit me Marks and
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Spencer's as a perceived everybody says that's the most expensive I promise you nowadays I can go into M&S and get my essentials for the same money as Sainsbury's wow promise you but I'm talking about layout and calmness and just like M&S is just calm waitrose yeah
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is a different type of person M&S is you work really hard and you're gonna treat yourself so you go to Marks's okay that's how I'd see it waitrose is I've got so much money yeah and I can just walk around like an arrogant yeah in my defence
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I mean you're you've got me to a T there but also it was the nearest supermarket the Barbican waitrose you know the one just on Whitecross Street that was my local supermarket it's a good one where did you live when you lived here then
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because I'm an Islington girl I lived on that street wow I've got a lot of money I lived up next door to Trevor Nelson and his house was a hundred times the size of mine in fact he had more vinyl than I had house wow
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he's done well though hasn't he with his career he's done well yeah lovely guy really lovely guy nice guy he's a cool guy isn't he he's still on radio too he's still on radio too yeah anyway where were we we've had lunch sorry I skipped back to lunch
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with the beige food apparently avocado's a beige in your world yeah twenty past five I pour a small gin and tonic what a great moment it's a great moment do you have it standing up or do you sit down to enjoy it no I never sit down
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at home this is why I think when people say oh you should go outside I do ten thousand steps easy walking around right I don't sit down I don't sit down during the day I find it really hard and if I do sit down then I nap
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I'm asleep okay obviously you spent a long time in EastEnders and whenever they drink gin it's running straight to it pour it slam it in their mouth do you ever is that that's how I envisage you have to drink you've just been conditioned to drink that way
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or is this a more sedentary thank goodness I can tell you that I'm not a raging alcoholic and I don't run to the bottle and swing it out of a bottle I am getting a nice glass I'm putting some nice ice in a glass
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I'm pouring a very small measure of gin and yesterday was a lovely aromatic fever tree tonic oh really good because that was sort of the main reason why I feel I wouldn't be a good cowboy is you know when they go into the saloon
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and they get a whiskey and they just down it and carry on if I down a shot of whiskey I would sort of shiver for about half an hour and just be like and I just don't I think I would lose respect within the saloon yeah
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the worst cowboy movie ever where the cowboy goes in and orders the fentimans and then just sits there with the botanics tickling his tongue for a while could I try your soft ale and I have a little sip of that then I nurse a pint of bitter
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while reading a Jack Reacher book and then I just get shot has the team the teen reappeared nah the teen is about to reappear yeah the teen's not back yet she finishes school a bit later ten past five Laura's gone to get her so yes
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well let me just say I'm not a lazy mother for the people listening they might think why if she's at home has she got her nanny running around I tell you why she's been in Cornwall for five days the lady what a layabout what a total layabout
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how dare she she's had her holiday yeah and I'm exhausted because Joni's had chicken pox for five days and she hasn't left me alone so I really do need a little bit of me time just want to clear that up there right so is the kitchen thing
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for four hours you can't tell anyone you can't tell them about it either it's actually not true you just wanted four hours yeah you were like I'm doing the top secret thing leave me alone and you lock the door I can tell you that I did show them
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what I've been doing right and they have signed an NDA or a please don't tell anyone because I'll kill you all right they're the best NDAs of all so it's twenty past five I've poured a small gin and tonic I speak to my daughter on the phone Eliza
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Joni by the way is at Zumba it's a very busy afternoon for Joni wow on a Tuesday so Joni finishes school at a quarter past three she goes to archery club until quarter past four she then goes to after school club for a few minutes probably about twenty
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and then Melina the Zumba teacher picks her up from the school and they're off to the village hall and she's there till six p.m so all I know about Zumba is that you wear brightly coloured trousers while you're doing it you know those
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they're like sort of shorts but they're the full length I mean I've described you don't need to David I've never done it so music plays are there set dance moves though there are set dance moves do you just do whatever you feel like no you have an instructor
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doing the moves yeah I didn't go to Zumba I don't know why I'm doing the moves yeah I used to do it years ago loved it was any of this Joni's free will or is she basically taken to the archery in Zumba again just she'll do anything
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did you not hear me I know she's like she's good at everything the more clubs fill in the day with as much stuff she's never tired she'll still get home from Zumba at six and
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want to create a tent in the garden it does add to the sort of cave lady thing if she's doing archery as well that she can go out into the garden and shoot some seagulls and eat them for dinner or whatever yeah okay great
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she's going to be starving when she gets back from there she's going to be starving you know what they wanted last night pizza I had a couple of calls yesterday about a couple of jobs and it all kind of happened around 5.30 so you know sometimes
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where you've had a calm day and then suddenly kind of your agent phones and there's something's happened or quite a large things are going on and you think oh I don't know why this is happening at half five but that's what happened last night just a few bits
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were going on you know I had to think about a few things so I said what do you fancy for dinner and they said and they wanted a five guys oh yeah I said let's get a five guys ordered no problem amazing they get their five guys
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I had some the kind of you know the pasta which is you chuck in for two minutes it'll have a little beef ragu in it ravioli like a ravioli a tortellini yeah I had some of that my niece was coming round my niece Maria was coming round
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at about half past six so Maria is my eldest brother's daughter and there's three years between us so when I say niece right she's an adult she is a huge adult yeah I got one of those not huge I'm gonna say I got 35 year old nephew yeah
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yeah whatever I say he's coming to the pub or whatever everyone thinks oh well we better get a colouring book for him or whatever I know I get it all the time I say me and my niece are going out and they go oh where are you going
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Peppa Pig World I say no burner boy we go faces can I ask those calls and obviously we don't have to tell us about those calls but are you while ordering the five while eating your tortellini have you got sort of big life decisions going
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on in your head then not life yes actually yeah I did actually what a day it was a lot going on but the five guys was ordered the kids were happy last night which is lovely I always say you're only as happy as your unhappiest child aren't you
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that works but everyone seemed in a good mood they had good days you know it was a you picked a good day yesterday that's all I'm going to say it was a very it was a lovely lovely day it was a very life affirming day wonderful
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Nat are the kids not slightly amped I mean I love the five guys don't get me wrong but particularly with that if I get a milkshake as well do they need to almost do more Zumba to un-Zumba the five guys then afterwards they seemed to be
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okay last night I think you know they'd done a lot at school they were quite tired they had their five guys and then my niece Maria and I had our pasta we had a little chat I opened a bottle of Chablis so have you
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how much gin have you had just one yeah just one just one gin alright okay yeah opened a bottle of Chablis lovely one from Tesco Tesco's finest are we talking sort of £7.99 £22 fuck off £22 bottle of white from Tesco I bet it's good
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I'll tell you what annoys me about the posh supermarkets just before we leave that is that you know when you ask for something you go like where's the Greek yogurt a lot of the time they will insist on walking you to us yes I agree
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like just point me in the direction I can take it from there but that's that's just the posh ones that they do that in in little the guys like I think it's head west yeah yeah it's true past the surfboards head west yeah alright so you've
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opened a shabbily with Maria this is lovely kids are just doing their own thing yeah well Laura's still around because Laura she wanted to do some ironing for me bless her and me and Maria are now going upstairs to do a pod that's her only evening
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to come around she's really busy so then Laura's going to do bath and hair wash with Joni get Joni to bed whilst we're upstairs doing that okay give Joni a lovely big kiss say goodnight to her because obviously I'm going to be up here holed up
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and Eliza I'll see afterwards and she's just chilling on her phone robotically looking at her phone which I usually you see when you're doing podding at that sort of the witching hour it's quite difficult to say to your teenager let me have the phone
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and now I'm going to fuck off for two hours yeah because I'm not spending time with her it's very difficult yeah so you know you kind of give in to the phone and actually she was on a video call to friends and she was texting you know
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she's nearly 14 you know I have to let it go a bit what's the shabbily pod like does that bring a slightly different vibe to the pod that you've got it there again it was lots of ice and just a glass each not a big deal the shabbily
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but it was mum guilt so it was very open it was a good one last night I had lots of messages from people and voice notes and it was me and Maria talking about you know being mums working hard and you know just what you're permanently guilty
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about everything yeah my wife feels that where you're always in the wrong place that feeling right that feeling and it's funny that Max is saying this while he's literally hiding under the stairs recording this podcast at the moment while I his child and partner are struggling
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around the house yeah absolutely yeah do you know what because when I'm in Australia all my work is starts about 5pm so like dinner time bedtime bath time I'm just going to the shed to talk about football on Zoom what can you do what can you do
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it's your job you're right it is my job but also it feels as patriarchy as you could get what are you doing I'm just going to talk about Man United's form in the shed love like with the lads with the lads like fuck this is a disaster
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it wasn't designed that way it's just it's how it happened Nat can I ask you this though we're recording this in the morning I'll feel pretty amped after recording this as in I'll go out for a cycle or something immediately after are you not a bit amped
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in doing a podcast that late in the evening do you know what I mean I can do them at any time of day I just love sitting talking rubbish I just love it so yeah it was a catch up with Maria that was really good
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and we got off about twenty past nine I'd say okay about twenty past nine so she went home is Mark back from Wimbledon no he's still on court one John Isner's playing Rafa Nadal and it's gone into the fifth set and Mark is just there just boom
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back and forth he got home roughly I think it was about twenty past twenty past ten half past ten so what do you do between twenty nine twenty and ten twenty I sit with Eliza for a bit I go up to her bedroom with her
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the hell hole that it is I don't mention tidying up at this time of night because it's just pointless there's no point I go at her it's too late so I give her a nice cuddle yeah nice cuddle in bed and she says oh mummy I've missed you
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doing that it was really lovely we had twenty minutes together and then she bangs on motherland to go to sleep do you remember when you were younger great show my thing was friends you know you'd have friends on all the time her thing's motherland which I'm proud of
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because it's a great show great choice yeah really good so yeah say goodnight to her did you give the toilet one last flush before you leave or I didn't actually I'll go in in a minute I'll go in in a minute because I haven't done it this morning
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yeah film it and we'll put it in the show notes oh how lovely how lovely I'm not going to do that sorry I mean this has been a long day because we're getting up to 10.20 and you've been up since 6.20 to 6.40 as well
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well I fell back to sleep don't forget it oh yeah got a little extra then so Mark gets back what do you do you watch the Wimbledon highlights with Mark can you imagine can you imagine I think he'd chuck the telly out the window he was really hungry
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actually when he got home and I'd only had a very kind of I had about four pieces of ravioli and it's very unlike us to eat late but these two weeks are a bit weird because like I say I'm not seeing much of him so he came in
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and he put a mini little mini pizza in the oven a little mini crostomolica oh wow he chucked that in the oven he even put some chips in the air fryer and we sat and we had a little kind of midnight feast if you like
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and we just had a nice chat and sort of unpicked the day together because there was quite a lot to unpick well of course and did you did you have another shabbily with your mini pizza yes yes I did have another shabbily yeah Max stop turning this into
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an intervention Max Max is just totting up all of the booze that all of our guests are drinking Max you do look very healthy yeah I do the units what I do is I put a bar chart of all the guests and how many units they've had
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over that day and I extrapolate it over their life and then I work out everyone's lifespan and then I predict when each of our guests will leave this mortal coil and see if in 40 to 50 years I'll see if I'm right
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it's a good show yeah it's a great show my father used to play the piano on Irish television most days really and he's still with us he's still playing the piano but if I was ever particularly unruly mum said that he could see out through the television
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oh that's good yeah and weirdly he could see like he could hear what was going on in the house as well oh that's good even if I was being cheeky to her upstairs she's like your father is going to be so angry because he can hear
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what awful things you've been saying I like that that's brilliant was that bong like your your next meeting no no it was a Sheen advert was it yeah because we haven't had adverts put in this podcast yet but maybe that's something you're doing now
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just to sort of to monetise this so you have a midnight feast oh so good and then do you watch an episode of anything no no we're too tired in fact Mark went to sit in the lounge yeah and I went are you being serious
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it's ten past twelve come on we're just going to fall asleep we're going to put something on the telly and we're going to fall asleep and wake up with bad necks at three o'clock in the morning let's not do that so we went up to bed
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we turned everything off went up to bed brushed teeth into bed and that was that what a day I like it as a day some of our days have been quite frenetic because we spoke to say some performers who are doing a show that evening
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so the whole thing builds up to this massive climax to the bloody show whereas I like your day I mean you have recorded two podcasts across this day but your vibe is it just seems to remain the same I think it's a sort of self-actualisation thing maybe not
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you can just be yourself on all these different formats you don't change I am feeling very much how am I feeling yeah I'm very happy at the moment that's great as you say I don't change I don't care what people think of me and I just potter about
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doing what I want to do and that's it and also you won't know because you haven't left the house in five years so nobody you're in a closeted curtained podcast room now for the rest of your life it doesn't matter oh so yeah I think that was
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a great day you've achieved a lot there's a four hour secrecy bit I enjoyed that I'm so excited to see what that is and we're going to look like fools I would say because I'd say we got close to the truth you know what I mean
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yeah I think I feel confident that I know the truth I think you know the truth David but this is a very sort of less aggressive version of a few good men isn't it it's not that you can't handle the truth you can possibly guess the truth
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so Nat thanks so much for coming on I hope you had a nice time I've had such a lovely time with you both thank you so much for inviting me on genuinely I've loved that do you know what I feel and this is why I like this one
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in particular is because a lot of people think in terms of days with accomplishments and you're meant to have these landmark events but sometimes a nice day just involves a lot of small things that all click from one thing to the next thing you know people with children
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a lot of the time they'll book in 500 things for school holiday you've got to be doing something every day you've got to book a theme park you've got to go and see a play or a summer pantomime and they're out they're out and they're posting it
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and they're all looking really happy but they're fucking exhausted right my kids and I as I say of course I take them out I don't want them to think that I hold them up for six weeks just because I'm happy that they're doing it however
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we enjoy the garden we enjoy being at home they enjoy watching the telly you know like what I did playing with tents in the garden my mum's bed sheets and just playing I think you need to enjoy the place that you continuously are spending the most money on
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every month 100% it's kind of what Max is doing hiding under the stairs during this podcast it's an extension of that beautiful childhood thanks so much for coming on Natalie it's been a pleasure thank you so much that was Natalie Cassidy and we've had a first here David yeah
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it's very exciting the first guest to not leave the house for a whole day but I think well done to her for having such an interesting day but without leaving the front door and not being a comedian as well
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well done to her I thought naively everyone there was you Max and then everyone else in the world was a comedian but it turns out thank you Natalie thank you very much for sharing your non-comedian life other people exist she did go to her second kitchen
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for four hours where we're still not sure if she was dismembering a human torso but it seems unlikely you know you wouldn't you would not agree to come on the pod I think if that's what you'd done when people ring me now
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who don't know me I'm definitely going to and say I'm walking around the house or say it's a delivery driver who's at the front door I'm going to take longer getting to the front door because it's more it's like you're walking through various wings you know
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really good idea it's just a small it's part of my hustle vibe that's what it is folks yeah absolutely if you'd like to get in touch with the show this is the way to do it to get in touch with the show you can email us at whatdidyoudoyesterdaypod
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at gmail.com follow us on Instagram at yesterdaypod and please subscribe and leave a review if you liked it on your preferred podcast platform and if you didn't please don't anyway thank you Nat really enjoyed that listen to her podcast Life with Nat please thank you David
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another podcast down we've just got the rest of our lives to go I had a nice time