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Podcasts, there are millions of them. Some might say too many. I have one already.
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I don't have any, because there are enough. Politics, business, sport, you name it, there's a podcast about it, and they all ask the big questions and cover the hot topics of the day.
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But nobody is covering the most important topic of all. Why is that? Are they scared?
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Too afraid of being censored by the man? Possibly, but not us. We're here to ask the only question that matters.
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We try and say it at the same time, Max. What did you do yesterday?
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What did you do yesterday? That's it. All we're interested in is what the guests got up to yesterday, nothing more.
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Day before yesterday, Max? Nope. The greatest and most interesting day of your life? Unless it was yesterday, we don't want to know about it.
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I'm Max Rushden. And I'm David O'Doherty. Welcome to What Did You Do Yesterday? Hello, and welcome to Season 2, Episode Something of What Did You Do Yesterday?
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I'm Max Rushden, and there is David O'Doherty. I'm David O'Doherty. Welcome, David. Thanks for getting this guest for us again today, Max.
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And yet again, I prevailed. I watched another series of Taskmaster from the past. I thought, Phil Wang seems funny.
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I've known him a long time. I gave him a call. He said, sure, who's it with?
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I said, David O'Doherty. He said, who's that? I said, don't worry, you'll like him.
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He's got a lovely Irish lilt. And, you know, he's got a lovely Irish lilt.
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He's one of the good guys. And Phil said, sure, I'll come on. And here we are.
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Is that how it goes? It is a delight to have Phil coming on today.
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He's one of my fave comedy types. He was in the Wonka movie with Timothee Chalamet.
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I'll see. What did you do, Chalamet? Oh, yeah. What did you do, Chalamet? My spin-off podcast idea.
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He's one of the few people who could do that, then. We could ask him about it.
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He does Bud Pod, a very funny podcast with Pierre Novelli. Is it funnier than our podcast?
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I mean, we're not here to joke around. No, you're absolutely right. In fact, the fewer laughs, the better, is how I feel about this.
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We're here to find out what people did yesterday. We are. Should we just do it?
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Should we just find out what Phil Wang did yesterday? Yeah. I mean, literally, we're about to speak to him in five minutes.
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So we are in the same place, and I like these ones. We're in the same place as you guys.
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We're just like you. We're just normal people, and we're just trying to find out what Phil Wang did yesterday.
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Here it is. Phil Wang, welcome to What Did You Do Yesterday? Hello. Hello to you today, the day after yesterday.
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That's the thing. Just if anyone's not familiar what happens here, and Phil, just if you don't know, what we do is we ask people what they did yesterday.
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Big time. That's it. Okay. Oh. I know it. Yeah, I know. I'm prepared for the format.
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See, we don't want too much of that now. We don't want, like, if you've got a little dance or something like that, that's not necessary.
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I've got a halftime show prepped. I'm going to call one of the comedians you know, a pedophile, for the whole, for like 15 minutes.
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Is that cool? Yeah, sounds perfect. If anything, we've not been edgy enough yet during the season.
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We're in series two, so it'd be good if someone brought some edge to all of this, I think.
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Oh, great. Yeah. They call me Mr. Edge. Yeah. On the circuit. That's how the guy from U2 got his name.
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Oh yeah. It was edgy comedy that led to the edge being called the edge.
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My mum met his mum once in Malaysia. Right. She's an English lady. Both my mum and the edge's mum are English ladies.
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Well, not English, so Irish on his part. My mum's English. They were talking. My mum asked, so what's your son do?
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Oh, my son's in a band. And oh, what band? She goes, U2? Like that?
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U2? What a nasty way to tell everyone your son's the edge. My friend runs a foreign language school in Dublin and they got a lot of Chinese kids who just, when they come over, just pick an Irish name.
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So there's always a lot of Collins from Colin Farrell, you know, fine. But in one of his classes, he once had a guy called the edge.
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Edge is the least common, I would say, of all the traditional Irish names. Yeah, they had the edge, they had Michael Flatley, and they had the guy from the cause.
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Someone called themselves, I'm the guy from the cause. That's what I'd like to be known as.
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People always forget about Saint the Edge. That's something the Irish guys are known after.
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Anyway, enough of this. Phil Wang, when did you wake up yesterday? Yesterday, I woke up.
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I woke up at 8.45 and then snoozed till 9. I like to give myself a little 15-minute snooze gap.
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Why? Why did you wake up? Why do I give myself a little snooze gap?
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No, no, just, would you not just let nature take its course? Because I had to go to my personal training session.
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Okay, this is exciting. Now you guys respect me. Now I'm getting the respect I deserve.
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I do. Now, presumably, there's the PT session, I'm guessing you've got a 10 o'clock book, have you, or a 9.30?
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10, 10 a.m. on the dot. Okay, 10 a.m. on the dot. So I need to get up early enough that I can have a little protein granola.
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What? Yeah, let me get a little protein granola. Who is this guy? I get a little protein granola.
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Have we got the wrong Phil Wang? I think we've got the wrong Phil Wang.
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I have a protein granola with a sliced banana on top as a treat, you know, for my sweets, and then I have milk and some coffee from my espresso machine, and a little tablet of vitamin D.
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What? Wow. David. I've noticed that a few of these up-and-coming comedians, younger than you is what I'm saying.
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Well, debatable. They seem to be taking health quite seriously these days. What do you think about that, David?
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Do you think, Max, that's because they've seen me, and they're like, I don't want to turn out like that.
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So, consequently, Joanne McNally is doing shuttle sprints across scream running across Clapham Common so she doesn't turn out like David O'Doherty.
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Yeah, when we go for a run, we have a photograph of David. To our forehead.
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So we're looking at David the whole time. No, I think what it is, is we came up with fucking Instagram and stuff.
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So even we, even the fucking dweebs of stand-ups have absorbed some of that aesthetic pressure.
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Are you a member of Hustlers University? And have you been following the teachings of the Tate brothers, Phil?
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Is that what's going on here, really? Yeah, yeah, that's right. I just put in an offer.
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On a Romanian, spooky Romanian country mansion. No, what it is, I just, like, the last time I was in shape was when I was eight years old.
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And I've always been trying to claw myself back to that. Well, you totally ripped.
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People at primary school were like, look at the lats on this guy. Well, I was one of those, like, skinny boys who, like, I guess had abs because they're skinny.
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You know when you see, like, a little boy and he's got abs, and you're like, what the fuck?
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How did you get to those abs? I've never had abs, Phil. I've never, ever had abs.
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But I can feel them. I don't think I have either. They're beneath the surface.
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Like, even at this age, they're still waiting for their time to shine. And yet I just keep covering them exactly in more and more layers.
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They're like Pompeii. And my delicious eating habits are the Vesuvius ash that has just covered them over.
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But one day they will be found again. I'm punching them now. I'm punching them now.
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Here's a question. Do it for both. I'll start with you, David. Do you, because you feel them, do you count all six?
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Oh. Do you, like, go through the, you know, like, push up and push down?
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We're all doing it now. Yeah. Do you do that, Phil? I can't find them.
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I can feel a hard layer about two inches deep. We're going to have to try and break through that at some point, maybe with a drill or something.
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But I can't find any, like, of the ridges between the abs. No, never. Okay, so it's sort of you've got up at 9 o'clock you've done your bowl of granola and your banana coffee.
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Protein granola. Yeah, my apologies. Between now and 10, take us through that. I bet it's high performance stuff that he's doing.
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He's probably under a waterfall chanting. I'm watching the news while I'm eating my protein granola.
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Got to stay on top of world events. Got to know what's going on. I don't even make a fool of out there.
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Then if I time it right, I'm going on the toilet. Okay. Because I need to weigh myself.
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And in no way I'm weighing myself before with that extra dead weight. So I'm going to the toilet.
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I'm trying to get myself to a new PB. All right. I see. Now, are you tempted to weigh yourself just before and just after to see?
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I'm tempted to do that. But even I thought that's too gross. Yeah. I mean, the sizable heft, it would depend.
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You know, you could use a visual on it. Yeah, right. It's definitely fluctuation. I would be interested to know whether it weighed a pound, you know, or whether it weighed half a stone.
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I've no idea how much my shits weigh. Half a stone is probably too much.
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That would be like seven bags of sugar. If you were at a restaurant with Mrs. O'Doherty and then you came back and you would just look like really much lighter, I think a half a stone is really unlikely.
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Dave comes back and he's got abs. Like one time he was in the toilet and he comes back and he's like, whoa, how much shit was in there?
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Dave's got abs now. Yeah, it's one in the eye for the personal trainers, isn't it?
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When you're scrolling through Insta and it's Dave, it's just they're saying, here's how I get abs.
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Watch the news. It's a bleak place at the moment. Do you think though, if you had a fight with Zelensky, do you think you'd take him?
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I think he's short, but he's tenacious. Yeah, he is tenacious. Yeah. That deep voice as well.
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I'm surprised you went Zelensky not Vance there. Or do you think it's a given that Phil Wang could, beat the shit out of JD Vance?
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Yeah. Like the pay-per-views on Wang Vance would be so low because there's nothing in it.
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It's like one of those fights that, you know, the champ takes just to make some money.
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Whereas Wang Zelensky is something that. Now you're talking. Yeah. Because the news is so bleak.
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And I find myself consuming more of it when it feels like, you know, World War III is closer.
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Can you stay dispassionate? Or are you just sitting there going, oh, this is. I'm just, most of the times I go, oh, this is so annoying.
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Like, I'm so annoyed about it. But like, I'm completely powerless in this situation. Yeah, I'm pretty dispassionate about the news.
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I think ever since COVID, there's just been this sort of sheet between me and the news.
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I just watch it like it's TV. And then if it ever comes to any kind of manifestation in my real life, something I've seen in the news, I'm like, what the hell?
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You know, like when you watch the news and like inflation is up by 50%, 15% and you go, the news.
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And then you go to the supermarket and then eggs are five pounds per egg.
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And you're like, what the hell? The news isn't meant to affect me. I just want to get passionate.
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But when I'm watching the news, I'm like, nice one. Funny. So I can maintain a kind of distance from it.
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It's probably good for you. It's probably good. I think that is the healthiest way.
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I think you really shouldn't worry about things until they're literally right in front of you and it's too late.
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So Phil, do you go to a place? Or is this PT coming to you?
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I go to a place under the railways near me. You know those arches they sometimes convert into businesses?
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Are you a troll? Yeah, big time. The workout is we ask commuters riddles three for an hour.
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I just need to investigate something here. A troll is from fairy tales, for example, and maybe real life.
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But trolls... Trolling, in the internet sense of the word. Do you think it's the same root?
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As in, the troll in the fairy tale isn't like, you've got really fat recently, you stupid idiot.
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You don't know shit about Everton, you wanker. Yeah, stop doing that. I think the idea more of the internet troll, the etymology is that it's just people who are like hiding.
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They're kind of grotesque and they're hiding, waiting to pounce on unexpected innocence. Is that why it's used?
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It seems good to me, yeah. But sometimes people say trolling instead of trolling. I hate that.
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There's a type of person who says, trolling, COVID, and tofu. And I want to throw them out the window.
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It always comes in those three. Trolling, COVID, tofu. Someone was trolling me today because I don't believe in COVID.
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So I had to relax by eating a plate of tofu. Ugh, I hate this person.
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There are many of them in this country. Sounds like you're trolling there now, but we'll move on.
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Oh no, it's so addictive. What do you do? How do you pound that hot bard to get him to shape?
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Well, hang on. I have a question before that, which is, is your personal trainer one of those personal trainers whose neck is bigger than their shoulders?
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Not that massive. He's got a beautiful body. Don't get me wrong. Okay, yeah, good, good, yeah.
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He's not like big on the neck. He's not like the mountain or anything. He's got big old pecs, massive thighs, but then glasses.
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So he's got a bit of everything going on. Okay. My trainer's name is a Czech guy, a really sweet Czech guy, who's also called Philip.
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But spelt with an F, which I didn't think was allowed. Whoa. Right. So he's Philip with an F.
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I'm Philip with a PH. And he's a very sweet guy, and he can't actually count, which is interesting because...
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Give me 20. I could be there for ages, yeah. So I'm struggling. I'm putting all my effort into doing these reps of arm curls, whatever.
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I know I'm at 10, and he'll go, eight? And then I have to spend extra energy.
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Next time I'm going, yes, yes. 11 now. And then he acts like he always had it right, and the next one will go, 12.
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And I'm like, how is a PT unable to count reps? It's really stressful. And then he'll start telling me a story about something he did on the weekend while I'm really just working my ass off here.
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And then when he finishes the story, he comes back to counting, and he's like five off.
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So I can't listen to his story because I'm trying to keep count of... I'm in so much pain.
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I can't do any extra reps because Philip... Philip is 12 behind at this point. I don't know why he's like that, but he's a sweet guy anyway.
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What I want to know is, look, I take care of my own hot bod, so I've never gone to the personal trainer.
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But do you arrive day one, kind of like when you're going to, when, say, a lady is going to a new hairdresser with a photo of what you'd like to look like?
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Do you say, make me look like this? This is David O'Doherty at the Melbourne Comedy Festival.
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And I want to look like this, okay? Is there a discussion as to how you would like this to end?
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Well, they always talk about your goals. This is the thing that personal trainers, when you start, they say, so what are your goals?
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And you kind of want to point at your body and say, do I look like I have goals in my life?
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My goal is to get through this session alive. I say, I guess I want to lose weight and gain muscle.
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And then they have to do this kabuki where they pretend they haven't heard that before, and they go, oh, wow, interesting.
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Okay, that's an interesting combination of goals. And I just think, isn't that why everyone is here to do lose fat and gain muscle?
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But they go, oh, interesting. Okay, you want to lose fat and gain muscle. Because I had a personal trainer for a long time, Luke, a big fan, a lovely guy.
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And I was very open and honest with him that up until the session, I was sad that I was going to have to have an hour of personal training.
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While it was happening, I was sad. And the moment it was finished, I was totally elated.
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So he really got me. It was the worst of me. I had no willpower.
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All I wanted was to stop. But I was quite open about it, so I wasn't hiding this.
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And if I don't have a personal trainer, I would just walk around a gym, get another glass of water, skip a bad a bit, and go home.
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So I need him there. But definitely, until I'd been, that day was not a good day.
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That's extraordinary. I've never felt better. I've started to think I don't actually get endorphins from sport, so it never gets good for me.
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It never gets fun. Imagine if your experience was you hit the wall, but it's just the wall, and the wall just goes on forever.
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That's me with exercise, right? And so I need someone there to maybe go through it, because the endorphins never hit.
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And what I want to say to my PT is, like, you know that sense of elation you get when your body overcomes the difficulty of the physical strain you put it under?
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I never get that, Philip. I never get that. You have to keep that in mind.
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He's like seven, eight. Oh, God. And is there one, like, exercise that he makes you do that really is the worst one?
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He makes me do these burpees. You know burpees if you get on the ground?
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And I have to go back and forth, like, hop across the gym doing burpees.
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It's humiliating. Oh, God. You just feel sick. Does Jack Philip know that you're a comedian?
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And does he lean into that sometimes and put a bit of humor, spelled without a U, into the routines?
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He has no idea. He has no idea who I am, and he's never seen anything I do.
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Both he and Paola, who was the other personal trainer there, were astonished to find out I'm a comedian because I'm no fun at all.
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They're like, what, this kind of wheezing, crying, angry guy is funny for a living.
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How it manifests itself is every session he asks if I'm recording a podcast that day.
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Every day. Every day I see him, he'll say, are you recording a podcast today?
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The answer is yes, often enough that he keeps on asking. Yeah, yeah. But when it is...
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When it is and I kind of want to roll my eyes, I'm like, no, Philip, it's not just podcasts.
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But most days there is a podcast. I thought he might be like, maybe next time you will bring Timothy Chalamet, who you are in Wonka with, yes?
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You know, that sort of comedy. The best sort of comedy. Oh, like tap dance comedy, yeah.
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Like a family Christmas movie comedy. Yeah, exactly. Maybe you bring Paddington, your friend, you know Paddington?
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It's quite a good character, actually. Really straight, deadpan, Czech personal trainer who can't count.
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I really wanted to meet Paddington. But imagine if Paddington just totally embraces gym life then and gets absolutely ripped and then starts getting, you know, very sceptical, quite conspiracy theories.
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Yeah, full of roids. Eating, yeah, protein marmalade. Yeah. He's against any more immigration from Peru, even though he's from Peru.
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He's like, yeah. You pulled up the ladder, Paddington. You pulled up the ladder. Okay, so we've said goodbye to Philip.
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Do you shower there or do you shower when you get home? Or do you not shower at all?
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I don't shower there. I come home, I sit on the bottom stair, and I look at my phone for a bit.
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Nice place to do it. Lovely place to do it. It is a lovely place to do it.
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My girlfriend gets so annoyed. She's like, what are you doing? I'm like, I'm having some me time.
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It's the bottom of the stairs. I'm not ready for the ascent yet. Because I'm tired from Philip.
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And I'm looking at my phone for a bit. And then I put it away.
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And then I go upstairs and I have a shower. And at the end of the shower, I do a little cold burst.
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Do you? Yeah, that's right. I learned this from the Tate brothers. You got to give yourself a little cold burst at the end to wake up the senses.
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I did that just before this. How long is the cold burst? For example, today, it was about 30 degrees in Melbourne.
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I went for a run. And so I got back. And I don't. I like cold showers.
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So I had a hot one. But then I did make it slightly tepid. And then even that was too cold.
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So I went back to hot. But I really could have done with a cold shower because when I came out, I was still really red and sweaty.
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And a bit sleepy? Yeah. Oh, well, I'm always sleepy. If you're too warm, you're a bit too sleepy.
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And that's my main problem in life in general is that I'm naturally sleepy. So how long is your cold burst?
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I think the ideal is like a minute. If you can do a minute of cold at the end.
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But I don't know how long a minute is. I don't have a watch. I don't have a watch in there.
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So I'm just kind of like guessing. Is Philip there to help you? Is Philip there to help you?
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One, five, 13, three. I have never done this, but what I have done is much worse, which is sometimes in a hotel bathroom where it's a combined shower bath with the nozzle you pull up on the top of the tap.
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You know, this device that turns the water flow from down. Down bath to down, down shower above it.
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Oh, yeah. And sometimes when you scooch that, you get the first blast of water is cold.
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And that is one of the worst feelings. This is what's put me off. The post shower cold burst is the pre shower cold burst.
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And I want nothing more with cold water. Thank you. Yeah. It's like someone from the.
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Green Party said something good on question time. That was what we got. I told this story before, David, stop me if I have.
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But once at TalkSport, there was a sponsorship deal with the RNLI. And so the management looked at across the list of presenters as who could we send on this particular expedition?
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And most of them would have probably died. So I went. This was to, like, make awareness of don't fall into ice cold when you're pissed, basically.
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That's the slogan. Yeah, it is, yeah. They put me in a witch's chair, basically, and dunked me into, like, incredibly cold water.
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Wow. And filmed me to say, look, this is the sensation you get. You know, this is and here's how you're meant to react.
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And they're filming me. So obviously I'm trying to be all upbeat and go, you know, this is fine.
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They're just putting me in some cold water. And literally as my body was, like, submerged just to my neck in this, I just suddenly basically thought I was going to die because, like, all the blood rushing.
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Just from everywhere to keep your heart alive. And it's just absolutely one of the worst things that I've ever, ever done.
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And the advice you're meant to give is if you are falling off a bridge into an ice cold river, the reason you drown is not because you can't swim because, you know, you can swim.
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It's that you instantly gasp and inhale loads of water. So what you're meant to do is just very calmly just be like, which is just, I don't know if it's really appropriate advice.
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But that's easy. Well, listen to this. You just happen to like be slipping into just exhale and you'll be fine.
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And your body eventually gets used to it. Right. That's what happens. Right. So the advice is if you're hurtling into icy cold water from a bridge.
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Yeah. Yeah. In a new, completely new experience. Chill out. Relax. Fucking relax for fuck's sake.
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Exactly. You exhale. You'll come up to the top. You'll be fine. Stop taking life so seriously.
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This is the problem. Yeah. If you're skating. On a frozen lake and it cracks open and you fall into ice water and you could be trapped under a cap of ice.
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Just chill the fuck out. Relax. What's wrong with you? There's a walk over the bridge in Sydney Harbour.
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Heard a tale on that that's definitely not true because it would involve so much immediate forethought, if that's the right way of putting it.
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So when they were building Sydney Harbour Bridge, which is very high, you would have to say.
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One of the workers fell off and what will kill you there is, because it's a 500 foot drop, is you smashing against the water.
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But he thought about this and undid his tool belt and threw it down under him.
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The tool belt broke the water. The surface tension. You know, in the Olympics for the high diving, the swirly fans that actually keep the water moving.
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Because if the water were to go pancake flat, I think you would hurt yourself when you hit it.
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Yeah, that's right. Oh, that's so clever. I'm calling bullshit on it. Oh, come on.
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Don't believe it. No, no. He just followed Max's advice. Falling to his death from a bridge and he remembered, just relax, you fucking idiot.
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Just chill out. It's got the vibe of the roadrunner, you know, as Wile E. Coyote stands in midair, he has time to telephone someone that he's about to hit the bottom of the canyon.
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Yeah. I just don't think you would have that sort of time to Google it.
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Is this story from the guy who survived the fall? I think it's from Black and Decker, isn't it?
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Who are desperately trying to sell tool belts. We call this one Seabreaker. Yeah, so we're washed, we've had the cold burst.
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You must have got some endorphins from that. Oh, a little bit. It lasts about three minutes and then I'm back to my true self.
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Oh, while I was in the shower, I got a knock on the door. Right.
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Of my bathroom door. And it was John, the guy who paints in my house sometimes.
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As in paints the house, not paints portraits in my house. It's like a naked portrait of you in the shower.
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Suddenly it's like the court of Versailles. There's just a man sketching people. I'm just flexing after my pee pee session.
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He's trying to get it all down. You might be running out of abs paint there, John.
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Let me know if you need me to get some more ab paint. What's he painting?
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What's he painting? He's painting my bedroom this week. I've been here for like four years and I've only now decided I should put my own color in there.
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So he knocked on the door to see if he should wait in the bedroom for me or downstairs.
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And I said, wait, I think we're downstairs because I'm going to be naked. We're pretty close.
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What color? I'm going for a color called Cook's blue. Okay. It's like a light blue and that's going all over.
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No. That's not a relaxing night color. Yeah, it is. Why isn't it? It's blue.
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See, I think it's this relentless high performance life. You're basically painting it in the same colors as a factory of some kind.
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Fuck. That's what you want. You want your sleep to be seen just as like an opportunity to achieve more.
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Well, it's currently brilliant white. Is that worse or better? Isn't it dark at night, David?
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Like it doesn't really like that's the only time when it doesn't really matter, isn't it?
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David sleeps with lights on full blast. Big light on. All the nightlights on, lamps on.
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It's like, how does anyone ever get to sleep? All I want to do is create.
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You guys know nothing about the correct colors to paint rooms. Blue is not a bedroom color.
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Blue is a color for a feature wall in your sitting room. What do you mean?
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What's a bedroom color? Green. Green's a bedroom color. Yellow is not a bedroom color.
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No, it is not. Yellow is a creativity color, which is why. I asked John to, if you can see there, he's painted my office space Monk's Orange because I looked up what is the best color for creativity and it's this orange.
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But I think blue is a classic relaxing color. It is the color of the night sky, isn't it?
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My whole office is gray and I'm wearing gray. What does that mean for my lack of creativity?
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You literally have an easel behind you though. That is true, yeah. Like you're in The Sims, like I'm trying to get your intelligence up in The Sims.
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Sadly, it isn't mine. But you know, it's nice to have it. It does give the air of artist, doesn't it?
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Yeah, I'm glad you spotted that. What is the nature of the conversation he needs to have with you?
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It would strike me that the task is pretty obvious. Let's paint that bedroom in such a color that I never sleep again.
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But why does he need to talk to you in the sitting room? Has he found a stash of porno mags or something?
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He said, I need to talk to you about this fucking color you've chosen and you're never going to sleep again in your life, you fucking idiot.
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What's wrong? Well, it was day one of the painting job, so it was just like, which walls need this color, which walls need that color, and what finish do you want,
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and this sort of thing. So we're going to the ceiling, we're going with an off-white for just the ceiling, and then the walls are all cook's blue.
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So that's good in a way, isn't it? Because when you're lying, if you sleep on your back, I mean, I presume David hopes this, you'll only be looking at the white, an off-white,
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and then you will be able to sleep. But Wobitai, do you... God forbid. I roll over, yeah.
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Your eyes gleam open. In the pitch black room, because I'm facing a lovely, comforting blue.
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Okay, great. What finish are you going to go for? Are you going to go for a matte finish?
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Very matte. A new finish, a new finish by Farrow & Ball called Dead Flat. Call it Dead Flat.
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It's extremely matte. That's as matte as you can get. I'm with you. I'm with you.
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I think that's good. Just to clarify, do you dress for the painter or you're in a towel?
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How are we with John? Oh, great question. Oh, I dress for the painter. I don't have enough for him.
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No, I go to the shower, got dressed, put on, let's see, pants, T-shirt, trousers.
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Lovely. And went downstairs and said hi to John. Yeah. Okay, great. All right, so we've done that.
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You've got the whole day ahead of you now. Yeah. I'm chatting him, chatting, chatting, chatting to John, and then I realize the boys are coming over for a podcast.
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Philip was right. It's podcasting. Wow. I'm recording my podcast with Piano Valley that is called Bud Pod.
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And our producer, Felipe, is turning up. So at this point, I'll have had a Philip in my life and a Felipe, and I'm Philip.
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And a Pierre as well. And a Pierre. Well, the Pierre's Peter, but it's pretty close.
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You've got to spread out your friends. I mean, I'm not here to give advice, but you should go with other letters in the alphabet of people to work with and be your friends.
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I'm not sure. I think, Phil, I would listen to a podcast if it was only presented by and all the guests' names began with P.
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P's in a pod. P's in a pod. Very good. There we go. And today, Peter Shilton and Petula Clark.
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And off we go. That's a really good idea. We have another letter from Peter Mandelson.
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He wants to come on it again. Okay, great. Do you podcast in this room?
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Is this the podcast room? If you can see behind me, there's a green velvet sofa, and we sit on that, and we podcast to our heart's content.
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Okay, now I have a question. Do you, before each time we record What Did You Do Yesterday, me and David, who are really across the sort of technical aspects of all of this,
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we ask producer Mars Bar if the podcast is good. And he says yes, and then we carry on.
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Do you ask Felipe if the podcast is good? The podcast is good. You know, what's the small talk like before you get going?
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I'm too scared of what his answer will be. I don't want to know. That's his business.
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Okay. Yeah, he sticks to his business, I stick to mine. The convo is Felipe will come into this room here and set up, set up the mics and the computers and plug everything in.
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Meanwhile, Pierre and I will sit downstairs and have a drink of coffee and catch up on things like we're, what's his face?
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Zelensky. Yeah, like we're Zelensky and Trump. Mel Brooks and Carl Reiner, you know, those two guys are friends.
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And it was, I always imagined that when we're chatting and we just talk about news or gossip until Felipe's ready.
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And then we come upstairs here and we record two hours of absolute gold. Wow.
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Two hours. Well, we do 45 minutes for the main episode. And then the three of us go downstairs and have a coffee, do more gossip and news.
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And then we do another half hour. But overall, it's about two hours. With the gossip and chat, see the one advantage of, me being in Dublin and Max being in Melbourne,
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is that we never really have that gossipy chat. So we have it here, which I feel brings a unique frisson to this.
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Whereas are you not worried that you're not holding the gold for the record? Because you've had all the juicy goss over the coffee downstairs.
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The juicy goss over the coffee we have is stuff we know we cannot record.
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It's stuff we know we mustn't let anyone hear. Got it. We have to expunge ourselves.
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We have to expunge ourselves of that stuff and make room for the palatable stuff we have to say.
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If we start talking about something that could be good on a podcast, one of us will say, save it, save it, save it, save it, save it, save it.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. Save it for on air is said so often, you know, in radio studios and podcasts.
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And quite often on the radio, especially, you know, one of me or Charlie or Barry will be being so boring that we'll say, let's save this for off air.
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That's funny. I have an irrational anger. When I hear two things, one is, can I curse on this podcast?
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You get angry about it? Well, it's just, come on. I feel like Americans ask that a lot.
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But are there podcasts where you can't F and Jeff? I don't think so. Maybe like Christian podcasts in America.
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Oh, that's what this is. You don't know about the end of this podcast. We sing our favorite hymn.
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It's always called, what did you do yesterday? It's like, what are your sins? It's confessional.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. We have 100% conversion rate, by the way. So, you know, Nish Kumar goes to church twice a day now since he did.
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He also loses three stone every day, but we won't go into that right now.
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The other thing is, as we were talking about just before the podcast, I always feel that annoys me, that trope of just, well, why did you talk about it before the podcast then?
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I want the first draft of it on the podcast, not a sort of slightly edited version of it taking place right now.
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Do you know what I mean? I don't think anyone else is getting as angry as me.
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No, that doesn't get me angry. In fact, in many ways, I think that is opening the door.
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Everyone knows that something happened before you pressed record. Like, you know, just all just appearing, just press without opening your mouth.
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So, I think that's in many ways inclusive. Well, so, David, if you are a guest on someone's radio show or podcast or something, you will turn up and really just like make a real effort not to keep shtum.
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I say nothing whatsoever. I do thumbs up like that. They're starting to wonder, why did we get this?
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This guy on. People can hear you. If they get close to you, you can hear you going.
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You've just got so much that's bursting to come out, but you know you mustn't.
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Until they hit record and it explodes out of you. So, are you happy with how this recording has gone?
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You've had a nice time. This one right now or the podcast yesterday? No, we're still going.
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Because I have different answers. I have no interest. I don't care what happens today, Bill.
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I don't care. I don't care. I don't care how well this is going. It was a good one yesterday.
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Yeah, it was a good one. We went on some good riffs. We read some good correspondence from our fans.
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We threw out a couple of spicy takes that were spicy, but also appropriate for broadcast.
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It was a classic podcasting day. John upstairs was kindly being very quiet during his painting and also went for lunch, which was handy while we recorded.
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Imagine what he is hearing, though, especially if he didn't know. There was a podcast going on.
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There's people having very animated conversation for two hours in the room beneath him. It reminds me a bit of in the pandemic.
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I don't know if you guys remember that there was Zoom gigs and the wall in the room that I was doing my Zoom gigs in wasn't the thickest wall between me and the neighbor.
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And they definitely would have heard me doing gigs, but with no context whatsoever. I just imagine.
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I just imagine them picturing me with like all my Star Wars figures spread out on the floor, doing crowd work with salacious crumb or whatever.
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Right. They just think that you miss performing so much that you just started performing to action figures in your bedroom.
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That's what he's thinking. Definitely. Without that key bit of context. Well, John paints. He works with earphones in.
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He's always listening to something. And so I always like scare the shit out of him every time I have come up to say anything because he's always like, and I'll be like, John.
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John and the company go like that every single time. But I like to think that when we're recording yesterday, he was upstairs listening to his music or whatever.
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And he just heard this banter sort of trickling through from downstairs and he like takes one out and he hears us do a little joke and he goes, and he takes out the other one and puts them down.
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And then he's just like nodding and laughing and listening to us downstairs while he paints.
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I'm too scared to ask him if that's what really happened, but I think that's what happened.
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How often is John at your house? It's like the fourth road bridge. He just, he starts again.
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He's been here a few times. The thing is when he's here, he's here for like a week.
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And so I've become quite, you know, familiar with him. Yeah. We shoot the shit.
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We exchange wisdoms about life. He's a good egg. But yeah, it does sound like he's here every day and it's not, it's just this week.
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Okay. So we have, we've done our podcast now. What time are we in the afternoon, Phil?
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We're down to like four o'clock. Oh, hang on. Three o'clock. Sorry. Three o'clock. When's lunch?
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Lunch. I packed in lunch between talking to John about the paints and letting in Felipe and Piers.
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It's quite stressful. If I don't have time to eat, I get quite annoyed. So I'm, unfortunately I have some leftover pasta sauce that I made the night before.
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Chicken sausage, pasta sauce. And I just boiled up a spaghetti. I weighed my spaghetti, Max.
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I'm allowed 80 grams of carbohydrates per meal. That's so bleak. And spaghetti is not easy.
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No way. Because it's the shape of spaghetti. Does Philip with an F tell you this?
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Yeah. He says 80 grams of carbohydrates, 160 grams of protein. But he can't count. Yeah, he knows what the real amount is.
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But this is all I've got to go on for now. You're saying it's hard to weigh spaghetti.
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Yeah, because uncooked spaghetti is, you know, brittle and long. And so I have to put like a little plate on my weighing scale.
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And then I just put loose strands of spaghetti onto the plate. I was like, this is about 80 and put it down.
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It's like 100. It's like 150 grams. And then I'm just pathetically pulling spaghetti off this plate until I get to 80.
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And then I boiled that and ate that with the sauce. It was tasty, but I could have done with more spaghetti.
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It's got to be said. Did you leave it at 81 and just have one extra gram?
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I honestly didn't. I was doing it spaghetti by spaghetti until I got to 80. Spaghetti, spaghetti after spaghetti.
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I don't know. I don't know what the grammar is. But yeah, I was 80 on the dot.
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Wow. And that is a really sad amount of spaghetti. Like, can you give us an idea?
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I have no idea how much in my sort of handful of spaghetti. I would just get a handful for me.
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So I'm doing a classic child binoculars. Child binoculars. No, that's probably 200 grams there. So you're, oh my goodness.
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Yeah, it's not much. You've gone so tight there. It's not much. A butthole of spaghetti.
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That's how Otto Lenge describes it. One butthole of pasta. I says, if you know how much one strand of spaghetti weighs, then we'd know how many we'd need for 80.
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It'd be ideal if it was one gram. I think it might be. I think it's not far off a gram.
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I reckon 80 bits of spaghetti is like enough spaghetti. I don't count my spaghettis as I'm eating them, but I reckon if there were 80 strands in there, that would be a, is that not a decent bowl of spaghetti?
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I'm so intrigued. I don't think one is as much as, it must be more than a gram.
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You can't have been eating 80 spaghetti. Guys, I know the past is another country, but I remember the old Philly Philly wag wag.
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And that guy would be like, come on, let's get noodles. Let's get too many noodles and let's get loads of dumplings.
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Do you remember that guy? I know. Do you remember the fun we used to have with that guy?
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We really did. Opening beers. Yeah. Smashing beers into his head. Yeah. Drink the can and noodles come out of the can.
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I'm like, ah. Yeah, kind of noodles. Yeah, no, I love noodles. It's my favorite food in the world.
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So it is a really hard. I'm breaking to be measuring out because he's strand by strand.
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But it's a new world, man. I'm just so heavy. I got so heavy over Christmas and I'm not really get it off.
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Yeah. Okay. Was there a specific thing? Did your favorite trousers no longer fit you or something like that, Phil?
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When I go to the tailor, they really have to go to like the extreme for it to go around my waist.
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I don't feel like I look like I have that much of a gut, but I want to wear like nice suits, you know?
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And to wear them nicely, you have to have the waistband literally around your belly, around your waist.
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It's hard. I'm trying to get down so I can have a nice suit. This is quite a recent thing, this me measuring out my calories.
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Okay. Who knows how long it'll last, but I need to, I just need to do it.
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My body wants to be fat. It wants to be fat so much. Every time we eat something, it's like, yeah, I think this means we're fat again, baby.
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We're back. And I'm like, no, you can't do that. Don't do that. And it's like, we're fat again, baby.
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We're fat. So I really have to fight it, man. And I hate exercise. I hate it.
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So it's easier for me to eat less than to do more. No, I hear you.
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It's hard, you know, and the older you get, you're quite young, but you have to run to stand still.
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So no, I'm, I understand. And maybe I should do that, but I can't see myself doing that.
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Okay. So that was a long time ago. Now we're at four o'clock. So you're presumably like you're ravagingly hungry, but you, you're not allowed anything.
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I'm not allowed anything. I think it may be ate a bit of, for all my measuring some pasta, I did eat like half a cinnamon bun because I was like, I'm quite hungry now.
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If I just eat half a cinnamon bun, he's back folks. But I earned it because I wasn't weighing spaghetti by the strand.
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So I've earned a vague amount of cinnamon bun. That SD card is literally sitting in the corner of the room sizzling because of the great content you have placed on it.
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How do you come down after recording Budpod? Oh, I sit on the bottom step and look at my phone.
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That seems to be how I cool down for most things. I play in the New York times games on my phone.
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You know, do you subscribe to that? Yeah. Wordle. Yeah. Get that one out of the way.
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I'm a bit tired of Wordle at this point, but I got to do it.
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Yeah. I don't enjoy us. No, not anymore, but it's like a job now. Get that out of the way.
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And then I go do the mini crossword. That's really fun. And then I do the strands, which is a new one.
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It was a word search. Yeah. And then I save connections, which is the best one for me and my girlfriend to do together.
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We'll say, shall we connect? We'll say, let's connect. And then we'll sit down and do the connections.
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I actually used to say the same thing with Jamie. I'd say, you know, I feel like we have a connection.
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Should we do connections? Nice. We had very different approaches to it. She was very gung ho and didn't really care.
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She was like, I think it's this. Ding, ding, ding, ding, ding. And I wanted to be.
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Just throwing in guesses. Yeah. It was like cavalier. Losing lives. And if she lost all the lives, didn't care.
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And I was like, I'm holding back here. I want to be at a perfect.
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Hey, she has the heart of an artist. Yeah, yeah, it's true. What can I say?
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What about when you're doing it and it's like, oh, you didn't know. These are all harbors in Kentucky.
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These are all indoor bowling teams in Kansas. How did you not know these? Yeehaw.
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That's the problem I have with connections. They can be quite American, you mean. So American.
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Yeah, they can be really American. It's like, yeah, catchphrases from. Saved by the bell.
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It's like, I don't fucking know. Well, I'd have got them. They'd have been really, you know, gee, Mr. Belding, I'd have got that one for sure.
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Yeah, that's right in my wheelhouse. Okay, so you do all four. That's nice. On the bottom step.
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So Mrs. Wang only joins you for connections on the bottom step when you get to that one.
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You call her down to the bottom step. I say, honey, get down here. I say, honey, it's time.
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And I ring the little gong. Is it the case that as you get each quiz, as you get it right, you can move up one step and she's sitting on the top step.
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So that's the only way you could be together. She's wearing a ball gown on the top step.
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Or she's from the chase. She's like one of those ones from the chase. Constantly like kicking you down the stairs.
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Yeah, right on. You get a question wrong. Well, she actually wasn't in yesterday. She's a visiting family.
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So I got to connect on my own. Oh, right. Okay. Which is sad. But these are spread out throughout the day, the various quizzes.
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Then I just did emails. Yeah. That's most of my life. That's most of every life.
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It's just emails. Two hours of emails. Were there any interesting ones? Any good ones?
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No. No, no good ones yesterday. Two hours. Phil responds to all spams. He responds to every spam with a full, many thanks for reaching out to me regarding hotels in the Cotswolds.
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I shall certainly bear this in mind the next time I'm thinking of taking a break.
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One hopes this reaches you well and you're having a wonderful spring. All the best, Phil Wang.
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It's mostly, let's see. Oh, I got one from Octopus Energy. Yeah, okay. I locked in my rate for 16 months.
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Oh, well done. Thank you. Sorry, can we just stop there? That's a great achievement because that's something that I would just, I would stare at that email from Octopus for months and months and months,
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and I'd never lock in the rate. And then I'd wonder why I hadn't locked in the rate.
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I'm usually not that good because in the same email session, I replied to an email from May 2024.
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So it's a bit from column A, it's a bit from column B for me.
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What was that one? Oh, it was some work one that I should have gone top of ages ago.
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Really, really should have. But I will put off something that will take me five minutes.
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I'll put it off for five years and it will bore into my mind. It will torch me day in and day out.
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And then I'll look at the email and I'll see the little preview. I haven't even got past the preview and I'm like, I can't, not today.
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Today isn't the day. I can't do it. And then I'll open the email and it'll say something like, all right, cheers.
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Well, I'll get back to you in a bit. Bye-bye. And I'm like, oh, fuck.
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It wasn't even anything. Because I'm the same. But if something, if it happens straight away and I do it, it's done.
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But if I've left it a bit. So we've got a man came around to measure up some blinds in our kids' bedrooms.
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Where, you know, because at the moment, Ian Rushden's room is blackout blinds. They're a felt crow down because he sleeps.
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He likes to sleep in the dark. Well, I was. If his wall's blue, because that wouldn't make any difference.
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He's not getting any sleep in the matter. We had to black it out completely because it was blue.
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But like, he came around and we gave a deposit for half that. We paid half the money, right?
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But because I didn't actually, I just can't face fixing up a time for them to come and fix the blinds.
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Like, there's no one benefits but us. But I cannot do it. I cannot do it.
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Same goes for my will. I paid for my wills in Australia. But I cannot.
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I cannot face emailing the guy saying, we need to sign these wills. I just cannot face it.
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I don't know why. Because you might get it wrong or worst of all, you get it right.
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And then it means you have to do more. Then you have to do the next step.
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That's what I'm terrified of. Well, if I leave this, then I don't have to do the next part of it until I do this part.
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Intriguingly, you guys have just basically stumbled across, I think, my favorite joke from when I was maybe six or seven, which is the nun is in the shower and there's a knock on the door.
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And she says, who is it? And the guy says, it's the blind man from the town.
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And so she's thinking, well, I won't put a towel on. And she goes out, opens the door and he says, you're looking well, sister.
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Where will I hang these blinds? It's a good one. I love how every joke in Ireland has to have a nun in it.
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It has to be someone holy. It has to be a priest or a nun.
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She didn't even have to be a nun. If there's a lady. Well. The blind guy's a priest, so I guess a lady has to be a nun.
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In an Irish joke. It's true, actually. I never thought about it like that. Look, my main issue with this is I just don't find the octopus a trustworthy animal to have as the icon of your energy brand.
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I would have it firmly in the sneaky camp. Because it's got all those limbs because it's slippery.
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Exactly. It's slippery. I mean, there's also it could possibly. Conduct electricity itself. It can possibly electrocute you with its tentacles.
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None of these are good aspects of an animal unless the company is run by an actual octopus, in which case I apologize right now.
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Please don't sue us. That's not so sinister at all. What animal is a trustworthy energy supplier?
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Okay, let's go through them. All the animals. Okay, right. There we go. Squirrel. Trustworthy.
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No. What? Squirrels like hide their food on the ground. They steal nuts and they hide them.
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They're gathering the nuts at an efficient price point. They're locking in the nut price.
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Yeah, they're locking in the nuts. That's exactly what they're doing. They sleep for six months.
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You can't contact them. They say your call is important, but we're hibernating. I could say Patrick's taking fudge.
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We're currently experiencing a high volume of calls here. It's the squirrels. We'll get back to you.
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In spring, when we have risen from our slumber. Fox, not trustworthy. Rat, not trustworthy.
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You know, I'm going through the classic riverbank. Badger. Dog. Badger, negligible. Dog depends on what breed.
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Yeah, right, right, right. You know, if it's Rottweiler energy, they're going to absolutely rip you off.
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Dog energy can't work, is it? Dog energy. Dog energy is good. You're saying you're not getting a tariff from American XL bully energy?
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You're saying that's not a trustworthy brand? The horse, very trustworthy. That's why it's on the banks.
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Yeah, okay. Particularly like a horse with two feet in the air. That shows it's sort of regal and healthy.
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But donkey, donkey energy. No, thank you. I think I'd like a donkey energy company.
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There's something reliable about donkey. Unpretentious. Workman-like. Yeah, you're right. Shetland Pony. I was saying, you know, shy horse.
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Shy horse energy. Anyway, I wouldn't mind if suddenly this podcast took three hours because we went through every animal to decide how trustworthy they were to be an energy supplier.
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Speaking of octopus, octopi or whatever, have you ever gone on a YouTube journey of watching them get in and out of boxes?
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Tiny little boxes. What do you mean? It's another thing to add to their sneakiness repertoire is that a massive octopus can like bend itself in such a way that they can get in and out.
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Like perspex boxes. They can get through really small gaps. Yeah, they can. Yeah, I've seen them like slither across a ship to get from one side to the other and escape all these sailors who are trying to grab them but slipping over like in a cartoon.
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Phil, you're trying to make your life sound way more interesting there. I remember we were going around the horn and I got up early one day and what do I see?
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Only an octopus going across the deck or whatever you say when you're a sailor.
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I was trying to be a sailor. That's how sailors talk. Across the deck. So hang on, what time is it?
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What's happening? I've lost track. So now we're in that sort of twilight period between four and six and it's emails and it's online things and there's a bit of online chess going on as well.
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Okay, there, I said it. I'm playing a bit of chess online. Who are you playing against?
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Between emails. Are you playing the computer? Are you playing against Deep Blue? Are you playing against a person who is somewhere else?
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I'm playing against random people around the world. Okay, yeah. And I'm learning flags. You know how most men of my age know the flags of the world because of FIFA?
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I know flags of the world because of chess. I'm learning new ones every day.
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Are there any countries and you would see the flag and you'd be like, this nation are absolute patsies.
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I'm going to win a chess against the Sri Lankans or say the Moldovans. I don't think there is a country.
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That's especially, sometimes I'll get Malaysia and I'll go, oh, sick. And I'll say, apa khabar on it.
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And they'll go, shut up, noob. So yeah, so I'll play with the, but I'm really bad.
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I shouldn't be playing so much. It's bad for my concentration. It's really not good.
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I don't think it actually makes you smarter in the rest of your life. It just makes you better at chess.
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But that's not a bad thing in itself. That's a good achievement, is it not?
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I think you're into sport, Max. So I think getting better at a game, is valuable in your life.
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Whereas I've never been, I'm not competitive. For me, it's just the addiction of the dopamine hit.
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If I actually wanted to get better, I'd be studying. I'd be reading chess books.
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But I'm like, ah, chess isn't there for me to get better at. Chess is for me to avoid octopus emails.
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That's why I'm playing chess, is to put things off. I'm like that, but with Double.
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I've gone really deep into the history of Double. Do you know Double? It's like Snap, but there is eight options.
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There are eight options on each card. And every card, one of the eight things is also on the next card.
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See, it's a great game. You can play with five-year-olds and they generally beat you.
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They haven't. Because they haven't lost whatever that peripheral vision is. They can just look at eight things and immediately see the one that is common to both of these cards.
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It's a game I don't seem to be getting any better at over the last five years of playing it.
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And I'm still getting hammered by children. Okay, so the chess takes us to when?
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The chess. The chess takes us to John leaving. John's done for the day painting.
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Good old John. Well done, John. Good old John's finished and we say goodbye, have a little cuddle, and he gets on his bicycle and cycles off.
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And then it's time for me to make myself a little dinner. Yeah, a little dinner is what I'm guessing.
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Tiny dinner. Tiny dinner. And last night I cooked some rice. I'm allowed 80 grams of rice uncooked.
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And this is the real treat, right? This is the real treat. My rice scoop.
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To put into my rice cooker. It measures out at 160 grams. Okay. So I do two scoops, cook that up, and I just quarter it.
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The final rice, I quarter it. And then each quarter is one portion. Very neat, very tidy, very handy.
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So are you batch cooking or have you got a bunch of people coming over for dinner?
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I batch cooked the rice. Okay, fine. And then I made myself a three-egg omelette with spring onions.
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Threw some Lao Gan Ma on top of that. You guys into Lao Gan Ma?
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Is that the sort of peanut-y stuff? It's the dried chili oil sauce, the cult Chinese chili oil.
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Yeah, you get that in Melbourne, Max. Yeah, probably. I can't have too much spice.
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I can't have too much spice. Yeah. Oh, I love it, man. Yeah. Can I just check on the sort of Joanne McNally scale?
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When you have a three-egg omelette, do you use all the yolks? Because she had six eggs for breakfast and only had two yolks.
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Six eggs, two yolks. Six eggs. Yeah, I know. Six eggs. The whole thing goes in there.
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Great, great. It's all good. I throw the shell in. I don't give a shit.
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Lovely, lovely. Yeah, no, all the egg. All the egg is good. And steam some broccoli.
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Okay. Put some soy sauce and steam broccoli. Delicious. Now, hang on. Have you not undone the healthiness of it by tricking it up a bit?
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I know there's not much carb in broccoli, but in adding soy, is soy okay?
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Soy is fine. Delicious chili stuff, okay? No, the chili oil is the problem because it's...
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It's oil. Okay, fine, yeah. That's so many calories, man, oil. Is it? When I put olive oil on my pasta now, I do it by like tablespoon.
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I want to die. I want to die. One tablespoon of olive oil. Do you know how many calories one tablespoon of olive oil is?
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120. No. 120 calories. A tablespoon of olive oil. Yeah, but you need some calories to live.
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And you need to eat some nice things to live. Good point. Oh, Max, this is good stuff.
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He's a journalist. Thank you so much. This is the attitude that got me into this.
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Situation. Yeah, okay. This is why I'm in this fucking mess. I understand. Are you afterwards not like desperate for pudding?
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I had a little pudding last night. Oh, okay. I had my dinner and then I came up and did a few more emails and then went back downstairs and I put on Civilization by Kenneth Clark from 1969.
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Oh, I love us. One of my all-time favorite TV shows. Such an amazing show.
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It's dense. He says a lot of hard words, but I watched that and I've got a little.
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Asian jelly that my girlfriend got from the Chinese supermarket and I shot at that and then watched some Kenneth Clark.
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That was really nice. To the listeners, David Attenborough was made head of BBC Two when he was 26 or 27 and he commissioned, in my opinion, three of the greatest documentary series of all time.
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And I think part of the idea was because color TV was new, they were going to go around the world.
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In fact, I think Civilization by Kenneth Clark invented. The idea of sending the person into the field and him standing beside.
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So it's a history of civilization through art from cave paintings right up to. I mean, there's no way he would go into any probably up to like Victorian art.
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I think that's about as far up as he goes. And he it's funny because it's sort of the modern Brian Cox version of it is him looking up at the stars.
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They're being stars are mental, aren't they? They actually they blow your mind. They're incredible.
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Whereas this is a man called Lord Clark who stands beside a famous painting, stares into a camera and patronizes you for eight minutes with a lecture about how bloody good it is.
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I love it. It's so old fashioned. It's like having a documentary presented to you by an admiral.
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The language is so dense and you have to turn on subtitles. It's like watching The Watch.
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I have to turn on subtitles. Trying to figure out what the hell he's saying.
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Amsterdam. But it's so beautifully presented and he comes up with these incredible turns of phrase and it's just so gorgeous.
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It's such a pleasure to watch. But because it's so dense, I didn't get to get through it last time and I'm going to try and get through the whole thing this time.
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What are the other two documentary series, David? You gotta go After Civilization, The Ascent of Man by Jakob Bronowski.
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And the third is Alistair Cooke's America. The third is the Osbournes. They're the Holy Trinities.
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Shag Mary Avoid was the third one. But yeah, they're just of a different age.
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They're incredible. There's no sense of, I'm going to try and make this easy. I mean, he definitely is.
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He's like, I'm going to try and explain this to plebs. But yeah. I do remember Charlie Brooker once had, because I think it was broadcast originally on a Sunday evening at half seven.
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And Charlie Brooker on screen wipe had, this is what's at half seven on a Sunday evening now.
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And it was Family Fortunes. And this is what was in the same slot in 1973.
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And it's him explaining the secret of fresco is to imagine life is in the colour and the texture and the, you know what I mean?
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It's just a very different. They're incredible. Yeah. Nice window into a bygone era. Yeah.
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And then I went to bed. I've got, I'm sleeping in the second bedroom, the guest bedroom, because mine is being painted.
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So I had to do that up and sit in there. And I got to bed at like 11, 10, 30, 11.
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And when I, if I get to bed before midnight, I'm like, well done, you got into bed before midnight.
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This means you're allowed to go on your phone for a bit and I'll go on my phone.
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And I was on, my phone until 1am. And then what a great way to fucking waste extra time I got, but I just get on my phone.
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I got on like Twitter and I just absorb the most toxic culture. I can for like two hours.
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I just absorb it. I just get like, it's like, do you feel good? Do you feel thrill?
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It's like being, is this? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It's like watching Mad Max fury road right before bed.
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It doesn't feel healthy, but it feels fucking. Yeah. It's like you've given yourself a colonic with Dr.
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Pepper and battery acid. Oh yeah. And then you're just going to try and go to sleep straight after.
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Is there a specific, because sometimes when I do this, particularly touring like I am at the moment, there's times when I'm in some weird hotels.
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I'll go on there. I'll see. I just want to feel something, but there is one story or, or one aspect of humanity that causes me to, as I doze off to sleep,
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want to punch the pillow really hard. Is there an overriding emotion that you're left with as you doze off into the night?
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Self-important thrill. Like I will go through a debate on the topic. I've just been watching in my head and I think about my arguments and I'll imagine I'm on question time and I'm just destroying someone on question time
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owning question time and people that are applauding and the host is like, I can't move on because they keep applauding.
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I can't, this is the way we can't go on to the next question because he's crushing this so hard.
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Fiona Bruce just has to end it there. There's nothing they can do. She's like, ladies and gentlemen, please, we need to continue to the next question, ladies and gentlemen, but they're like standing up and they're just like applauding me.
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And I'm, I'm just shrugging at Fiona like, sorry, this is out of my hands now.
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Sorry. It's the first time ever Fiona's come over, to one of the guests and raise their arm like the heavyweight champ.
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She's clapping away and she keeps, there's a point where she's just realizes I'm going to get the audience even more up.
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And she's motioning up with her hands. Yeah. She's hyping them up. She's like, huh?
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Huh? Come on. We've never heard Fiona Bruce say, come on. I don't think she goes, she doesn't do that on antiques roadshow.
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She goes, come on, get in there. But she will. When I'm on question, do you flip the five person?
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desk forward, but all the other guests don't mind. They're all just slapping as well.
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Even though Michael Heseltine doesn't have trousers on, but he's still like, it doesn't matter.
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Yes. That's how I get to sleep. I imagine just owning someone on a culture war issue on question time.
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And then I go to sleep like a baby. What a great day. It was a good day yesterday.
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It was a good day. Yeah. It's full. Yeah. Got a lot done. It's full day.
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Oh, I should have said also for dinner, along with my omelet and rice, I had, I had six steaks and a massive, massive plate of mashed potato cooked in Reese's pieces.
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The way it's not going. I don't understand it. You guys. I had two non-alcoholic gin and tonics.
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Oh, okay. Yeah. Are they good? Do they taste like gin and tonic? Which is fine.
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I keep running out of like fun drinks to drink that aren't booze. So sometimes I'll have to go, what's in here?
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And I had, I'll tonic water. And for some reason, last year I bought a bottle of non-alcoholic gin, which drives Pierre crazy that I would pay for non-alcoholic gin.
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Insane. Do you think? Why? But it's nice. And it feels like I'm having a little drink, but I'm not.
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But could you not just have had a little drink, just have a gin and tonic?
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I don't, any alcohol. I'm trying not to have alcohol in the week. I love booze so much.
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I really have to not have any in the week. I know what you mean.
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I would drink every day if I like, honestly, I sometimes think, oh, I've got a free house.
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And then I remember I'm 45. Of course I do. And I go, I can have some beer.
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I could just go and buy some beer and drink it. And actually today I bought two cans of beer and I didn't, I was going to have one with this and I decided not to.
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And I feel incredibly proud of myself. Yeah. Sometimes Max will skull a couple of cans during this podcast.
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We definitely notice. It's not a tapering off. That's too strong, but just, he gets less thorough towards, towards the end of it from about 3 PM and people's days.
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Max is just like, yeah, yeah. Dinner. Tell me about your fucking dinner. Here's how I feel about it.
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The zero zero beer thing. I say great because particularly not only in my country, do you have to put a Catholic clergy person in every joke?
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You also, the bars are definitely the, the ground system is a big problem with drinking in this country.
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So, you know, if you go out with four people, you end up in the past having four drinks, whereas now you can sneak in, you can almost go up to the bar person and be like,
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give us a zero for this. Oh yes. I don't want to get trollied. So I see the point of that from a beer point of view, basically zero zero beer is like fake beer.
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It's like having, do you know those glasses where there's beer in it, but nothing comes out when you hold it up.
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So it's kind of like that, but gin and tonic one, I feel maybe in the same sense, you could pretend you were having a gin and tonic, but is gin and tonic that delicious a drink?
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I mean, I like tonic. Don't get me wrong. When I was trying to appear more enigmatic in my university days, I used to sometimes just order tonic on its own to impress chicks.
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Wow. That is enigmatic. Yeah, it really is. This guy has malaria, I think. Have you met David?
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Malaria, David? Oh, yeah, you know, you've seen the tonic water. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Me just coughing into, I don't know what the symptoms of malaria are.
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I'm imagining it's a sort of Victorian falling sickness. More tonic, please. Do you want to kiss me now?
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I'm dying of malaria. Well, this old thing, that's just some leeches I've attached to my arms.
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I think gin and tonic is nice. I mean, I think if you went, I have alcohol free, like Sambucas and you did like three flaming shots of them, that would be real.
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So weird. I just love that Sambuca flavor so much, but I don't, I can't have alcohol.
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Not to be fair, if I had had alcohol free beers in, I would have had one of those.
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Cause I do really like those, but I didn't. So I had to make do with a fake gin and tonic.
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But yeah, I thought that was worth saying because it did feel strange at the time.
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I think we've covered everything. Okay, great. I'm happy. I'm happy. Are you happy, David?
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Any further questions? Thank you so much for coming on, Phil. Oh, thanks for having me guys.
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It was a pleasure. I just like with that little bit, Phil was worried that our phone lines would just start ringing in.
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He didn't appear to have a drink with his dinner. Is he okay? What the hell is going on?
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You guys are supposed to be asking what he did yesterday. Phil, I'm happy to be here at the birth of new Phil Wang with the personal trainer and everything.
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Yeah. Yes. You see that? Yeah, they're pretty good. They're pretty good. We will see how long it lasts.
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And that's not to say that I don't think it's going to last. I feel like you don't think it's going to last.
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Cause I ate half of a cinnamon bun. Well, you only had half. You didn't have all of it.
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But I only had half cause I'd already eaten the other half. I see. I would have eaten the whole thing.
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Phil, thank you very much for coming on. What did you do yesterday? Thanks guys.
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So that was Phil Wang. I had a lovely time there. That's a lot in there.
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A personal trainer who can't count is excellent. Two peas in a pod is great.
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Yeah, it is very good. Trustworthy animals for energy companies. Energy animals. Yeah. And weighing spaghetti.
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It's got everything. I'm worried that I came down too hard on him because I think because I am so allergic to sort of high performance culture, when anyone is doing anything vaguely healthy,
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I think my first reaction is to relentlessly mock them. And I hope that didn't come across.
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No, I think it's, you can be healthily skeptical of someone who's weighing their pasta, but, but there is a reason why I am not in great shape.
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And it's because I don't weigh my pasta. I would eat the whole, I'd eat 500 grams of pasta.
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I just keep going. I know, but you know the way everybody, the way the bully is just externalizing the way they feel about themselves.
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So I think it's, I'm pretty sure I'm a pasta wearer that is just doing his best to not weigh his pasta.
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I didn't imagine, you know, when we first discussed this idea in that cafe, I didn't have you down as, you know, school bully material, pulling the pants down of each guest and flushing their head down the toilet,
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pulling their ties so tight and yelling peanuts. So they can't undo it until they get home.
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He gets a pin to help them. But that's where this is. We find out who we are on these journeys.
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Oh no, I have an a-hole. Sorry, Max. You're a really charming one. So that's okay.
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