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Podcasts, there are millions of them. Some might say too many. I have one already.
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I don't have any, because there are enough. Politics, business, sport, you name it, there's a podcast about it, and they all ask the big questions and cover the hot topics of the day.
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But nobody is covering the most important topic of all. Why is that? Are they scared?
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Too afraid of being censored by the man? Possibly, but not us. We're here to ask the only question that matters.
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We try and say it at the same time, Max. What did you do yesterday?
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What did you do yesterday? That's it. All we're interested in is what the guests got up to yesterday.
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Nothing more. Day before yesterday, Max? Nope. The greatest and most interesting day of your life?
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Unless it was yesterday, we don't want to know about it. I'm Max Rushden. And I'm David O'Doherty.
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Welcome to What Did You Do Yesterday? Hello and welcome to episode Who Knows of What Did You Do Yesterday?
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David O'Doherty is here. Hello, David. The big one. I'm calling it the big one.
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I mean, we've had big ones in the past, but this is a really unexpected big one.
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I think when people see this in their feed, they'll be like, is this one of those weird things where they've blended two different podcasts that I listen to together?
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How did these people get this guy? Yeah. And look, I'm on a bit of a run with booking guests.
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Two, two. A lot of people, two. It's still a run. A run's a run.
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And we've wanted a footballer. And we've been talking about getting a footballer for a long time.
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So I texted Gary Lineker and I said, do you want to come on? And he went, yeah, all right.
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And I was like, fuck off. Like, he doesn't need to come on this. He's got a podcast empire.
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Why is he coming on there? And so then for the last week, I haven't really believed it's Gary Lineker.
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But, you know, for the tape, we have just recorded it. So we know. It's there.
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We know it's him. There was a funny moment. There was a funny moment where his son, you know, the Zoom opened.
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It was his son. And I was like, oh, we've just been scammed by a 25-year-old.
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It's literally Timu Gary Lineker. But yeah, like, it's an interesting day, isn't it? I think, you know, the whole point when we started this is, I wonder what Gary Lineker has for breakfast.
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And you will be, I think people will be pleasantly delighted when you find that out.
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I just. I can't believe you've pulled it off. I mean, because your previous one was you did try to book the guy from Adolescence, whose number you also had.
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And he just. Stephen Graham, yeah. Stephen Graham just responded. You were like, would you like to do our podcast?
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And he was like, you're right, kiddo. And just, that was it. I work on Stephen.
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You know, he came on Soccer M all the time. I realized I should have asked him about a month ago.
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Like, I shouldn't have waited until Adolescence had just been released. Because I was just like, oh, yeah.
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No, like, because we'd occasionally text over time. So, like, he's on my to-do list.
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But, yeah, we have Gary Lineker. Yeah, you've done it. And this is going to open so many more doors.
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Meryl Streep is going to see that Lineker's done it. Exactly. She'll be getting in touch with you, Max.
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So, ladies and gentlemen, here is what Gary Lineker. Oh, do you need to, David, for your audience, explain who Gary Lineker is?
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Do you know how you do that sometimes for people who don't know who Gary Lineker is?
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He's been on Live at the Apollo. He's been on all of those shows. That's your intro to every guest I've ever.
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Got Gary Lineker was one of England's greatest footballers of his generation, his generation being the 80s.
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He was the top scorer at the 1986 World Cup. He was nearly the top scorer at the 1990 World Cup, where England nearly won it, but just didn't quite.
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And then he's become the voice of sport on the BBC. He hosts Match of the Day, the show that Max wasn't in the running to host when Gary Lineker.
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Recently announced that he would be stepping back. He can host the shit out of anything.
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Anyway, this is we did this, I think, six weeks ago. This is what Gary Lineker did yesterday.
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Gary Lineker, welcome to What Did You Do Yesterday and welcome to podcasts as well.
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Thank you. I'm not used to them. This is the first guest we've ever had that was in my Panini 1984 soccer stickers book.
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None of that started so well. This is the first guest we've ever had. And then he took me into 1984.
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But it is it is the first I'd say, David, the first bona fide national treasure that we've had on the podcast.
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So we can extrapolate on Gary's day. If we never get Judi Dench or Trevor McDonald, we can just presume.
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They all live like Gary Lineker. That's that's how I'm going to presume. Well, Trevor McDonald lives around the corner from me.
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Doesn't he? If you want him on. Could you pop round in an hour and get Trevor McDonald?
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I'm getting him now. I'm getting him on after. It'd be amazing. I think Richard Osmond is going to have something to say about that national treasure status.
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With the greatest respect to Gary Osmond, you know. Do you think Osmond's there? You've had Osmond on?
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Yeah, he's national treasure status. Surely he writes. The nation's books. And makes all of the nation's television.
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And he also does a podcast. So this is a forensic analysis of your day, Gary.
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Okay. And all we ask from you is that you tell us the absolute truth.
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If you're happy with that. Yes, I'm fine. I'm fine. I didn't masturbate yesterday, so thank God for that.
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I did say, we were going to say. Do you know, obviously this might be the first interview where someone doesn't talk about you shitting yourself in Italian 90, unless of course you shat yourself yesterday, which would be a massive, great for us.
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This is quite funny. Yes. Right. Yesterday. So I was, I was, which I'm no doubt will come to, but I was in the gym yesterday and with my personal trainer and I'd taken my dog for a walk prior and out of my shorts pocket fell a poo bag.
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And he went, do you always carry one of those around since Italian 90? Okay. Let's start at the beginning, Gary.
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When did you? Wake up yesterday. Yesterday. I woke up around eight 30. I wait when my alarm goes off basically.
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Cause I have a very, not exactly habitual week. It's all over the shop, different days.
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So for example, when I, on a Saturday night, I don't get home from much of the day until three, three 30 AM.
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So then I'll put my, so I put my alarm on for about 11 and then I'll wake up at 11.
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So, but yesterday it was about eight 30. Cause we only care about yesterday. We don't.
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I couldn't care less about Sunday. Okay. So eight 30 and do you spring out? Hang on.
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What, what's the Lineker pyjamas? Are you in, I'm hoping the light blue Italian 90 third kit.
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That's the dream. Or maybe some silk GL Gary Lineker pyjamas. I sleep naked. Naked.
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I hate stuff like, yeah. You don't want to be constrained. Well, I, I, I'm definitely not constrained either.
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Even if I'd wore pyjamas, but I just don't, I've never just don't. I'm uncomfortable.
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So yeah. Do you spring up or when the alarm goes off? Oh my goodness.
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Come on. Come on. We're better than that Gary. This is a cerebral podcast. I never said it.
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It's a bloody long time since I springed up in the morning. I bet Gary Lineker doesn't have his phone beside his bed and just looks at meaningless bullshit for 20 minutes before he waddles out to the loo straight up.
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Not quite straight up. So my alarm got off. I might snooze it. And I think I did yesterday, snoozed it.
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And then my dog's in my room, Philbert, and he's very good. He won't, he knows he has to wait until I sit up in bed before he just leaps on the bed.
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So that happens then. Then I, there I go. I don't look at my phone at all until, until I have my coffee actually.
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But I get up. Yeah. I've just got out of bed and I clean my teeth, put something on.
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Cause obviously I'm going to walk the dog. That's the first thing I do. Take him out.
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It is a great shame in a way that you're not a naturist for your dog walk.
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I mean, we would have probably heard about it in the news. Yeah. I think there's a paparazzi outside the house on a few occasions over recent times.
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They'd need a zoom lens. Stick to your guns. If that's what you want to do.
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Okay. So the clothes, sorry, David, do you, have you got them laid out? Is there a person to lay out the clothes or do you, just pick up what's on the floor, Gary, and stick it straight on?
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Yesterday I was, cause I was working out later on. I just stick a pair of shorts on and my kit and yeah, that would have been it really.
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Clean my teeth first. And then if that's of interest and then put my shorts and my kit on.
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Gary, you strike me as the sort of person with one of those new electric toothbrushes that beeps when you have to change position in your mouth.
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I've got a relatively new electronic toothbrush. Yes, but it doesn't beep and tell me, although it does unhappy face if I don't do long enough.
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Is that right? How long do you need to do your teeth? Over two minutes and it starts smiling.
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So I think two to four minutes is fine. After, if you do more than four minutes, which I did once, I think I was drunk and it had an unhappy face after I went past four,
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four minutes. My best friend in school, saw that there wasn't a world record for brushing your teeth.
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This is when we were about 10 Ian Walsh and he brushed his teeth for eight hours and sent it into Norris McWhorter on the Guinness book of records TV show.
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And they had someone on from the British dental association being like the reason some records don't exist is because they're really bad for you.
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For example, brushing your teeth for eight hours, no one should ever do it. So it's good that your phone doesn't try and go for that.
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Crown. Yes. I was, I'm not going to try and compete with your friend's Guinness book of records record.
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Had you done that yesterday? God, what a day we'd have had. 10 o'clock. I got out my toothbrush and I went for it.
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Okay. So you brush your teeth downstairs. What coffee are we having Gary? I've got one of those, you know, I don't know what you call them.
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Those little Italian machine, not machine, but you know, you could put the coffee in a little bit and the water bubbles.
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I call it a Pezzetti. I don't know. It might be a Pezzetti. I think it is something like that.
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It's a real satisfaction in when the water sort of gurgles up and it flows through.
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Once it gets through and you go, ah, yes. But before I have my coffee, I take the dog out.
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So what's our walk, Gary? Do you walk past Trevor McDonald? I've not yet walked past Trevor McDonald whilst on the dog walk, although I've walked past him a few times on the high street.
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So no, it's just, it's just a quick 10 minute one, that one to let him do his business.
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He's Italian 90, as we call him. And let him do that. And then, then we come back and then I have my coffee always with a little bit of something sweet,
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bit of chocolate or something. That's, that's my breakfast basically. When you and Trevor McDonald are approaching each other in the street, is it just a nod?
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What's the, what's the McDonald? Great question. Thank you, David. I thought it was a good one.
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I think he generally comes over and says, and finally, no, there's, there's, we have a quick word normally when I see him.
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Yeah. Okay. That's nice. So is it a situation where as soon as the dog drops the big one, you turn around and come straight back again?
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Is it a mission, mission accomplished kind of vibe? After I put it in the poo bag, obviously being a good citizen.
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No, not quite. I do a little lap. So it depends where he poos. If he poos just over the road, as we go out, then I still give him that bit.
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But then after my coffee, you say I take him on a proper walk. Right.
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Okay. So it's back in coffee. Can I ask the make of chocolate? Is it, are we talking like a lint mint intense?
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No, it's normally some kind of biscuit, more of a biscuity chocolate kind of. It varies all the time.
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Right. But what was yesterday? A penguin? Yesterday was a wagon wheel. A wagon wheel?
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A wagon wheel for breakfast? Amazing. And today actually. I can prove it. No, I don't, I believe, I believe, a wagon wheel for breakfast.
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I didn't know they still existed, wagon wheels. And then I saw them the other day and I thought, wow, wagon wheel.
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I've never seen one of those, so I got them, yeah. When you open your day with a wagon wheel, holy cow, where is this going to go, Max?
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Wheels come off. When I, when I came up with this idea, David, I knew at one point we'd get to Gary Lineker having a wagon wheel for breakfast and think maybe we've completed the whole idea of this podcast.
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Is it, I would find it a bit, the marshmallow, I'm not, there's a, I love marshmallow.
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Okay. Well that, then, then it's a great breakfast for you. I like the tea cakes as well.
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They're often something I love. Oh, the tunnocks. Well, tunnocks or even the M&S like tea cake.
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I quite like those. Sorry, there's one thing we haven't covered here. Gary, when you went for the walk, do you have headphones on?
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Are you listening to old episodes of what did you do yesterday? Are there old episodes?
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How long has it been going? How long have we been going, David? What, six months now, I think?
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Six months of old episodes really, are they? I don't really function until I've had my coffee.
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So I don't, I don't listen to anything. I start listening to podcasts after I've had my coffee and I do listen to a lot of podcasts because we have a lot of podcasts.
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Yeah. So, so if doing that sort of, you're just the functional dog business walk.
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If someone was to approach you, you're not in the right mood for people. It sounds at this time, you're in a sort of bit of a grump.
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Is that a worry for you? Or do you just, you, head down to just try and, you know, get this lap done?
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I go around. There's usually a dog walk or two. I can, I can muster up a good morning.
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Right. I tend to do. And a smile. You know, I got everything. You have to.
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Can't really cope with a full on conversation. I find when you're holding a dog shit in a bag, people generally don't want to make conversation with you as well.
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It's a very easy, you just sort of dangle it and they let you go.
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Fling you out of them. If they start talking. If they start talking too much.
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You've got two minutes. Otherwise this is in your face. Okay. So we come back, we make the coffee and we have the wagon wheel.
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Are we standing for that? Sort of like sort of espresso bar. We sit down and really take our time.
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Okay. And again, in silence. And that's when I check my phone normally. See if I've got any messages.
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Yeah. And yesterday, did you have anything interesting? I don't think I did actually. Is it a 35 new messages situation, Gary, when you turn on your, very rarely, very rarely that two,
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three, eight, seven, something depends. I think there's quite, I think there's a few yesterday.
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I'm in a group chat that do a wordle with my kids and stuff. And I think some of them did it really late.
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We have a league table. I think some of them did it because you get doctor point if you don't, if you don't complete it in the day.
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And I think three of them, three of them last night did it about the night before that, I should say 1159, but I received them in the morning.
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I thought I'd won it that day, but how are you getting on in the, in the table?
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I'm in a champions league spot. Oh, I, yeah. Okay. And given the, given the coefficient this year, five will make it from wordle into that.
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You're absolutely right. I, when I wake up, I generally have seven to nine messages, Gary, and they're all from Max because Max is in Australia all through the day.
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He's been texting me ideas for guests for this. And, and generally they're the most obvious.
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It'll be like, ask Michael McIntyre, ask Mel Brooks, just these legends of comedy that I'm supposed to just be like, oh yeah, I'll get Brooks on the blower.
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No problem. You probably had a message from me saying, confirming this is on. Yes, I did get one yesterday morning from you.
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And when you get a message from me, Gary, it's not often I'd say, I, you know, I'd sort of, I'll use you once a year.
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I reckon I've got once a year in my locker from you. Does it pique your interest?
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Do you think, oh, this is good. Or are you like, ah, it's me. I was like, what's he want from me now?
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That's what I think straight away. What is his request this time? What is his new podcast?
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Relatively new podcast. Six months old. Yeah. I suppose it's true to say you've never messaged me.
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You've never begun the conversation. I've never got, you've never got, Max, could you do this for me?
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So I'm probably in your debt if you want anything done. Oh, wow. Real Godfather vibes there.
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Yeah. I'm not going to kill anyone. Okay. So we've had the coffee. We're on the phone.
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The day's about to begin. Yeah. Yeah. You're awake. You smile perhaps for the first time in the day.
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What's happening? Yesterday, which is what this is about. Obviously I, I had to do a little bit of recording with Micah.
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So my son, Harry came around and set up this. Who's my techie. Cause, cause for all the podcasts and I've got in the world, I'm technically inefficient.
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And then I went to sit, then I went to sit in the garden in the sun.
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Oh, lovely. The dog's sitting on me. And then he starts putting his paw on me leg.
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So he knows, that's it. I have to take him out then. And now it's Philbert gets his real go now.
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Yeah. Proper go, you know? And I think, I think we went to the, well, we did.
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We went into the village as well and went around the shops. He likes going around the shops.
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Cause when I leave him outside the shop, if he's good, he gets a biscuit.
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I mean, okay. Hey, not a wagon wheel. So what shops did you pop into Gary?
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It's a little deli. I've got some fresh British asparagus is in. So I've got some of that.
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Cause you only buy British Gary, isn't it? You know, famously refused to eat. Any foreign vegetables.
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Great British bananas. We look forward to British lemons. Gary, do you tie the dog up outside the shops?
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Is the dog best behaved that it can just sit there? Yeah. I have to put him around a postal on one of the little dog things.
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Yes. No. Yeah. Because otherwise he'd run in after me. He wouldn't run away. Cause he just doesn't like being apart really.
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So give him a, give him a biscuit, tell him I won't be long. Why are you there?
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Have a chat to whoever you want. I'll be back in a minute. I didn't cook yesterday apart from the asparagus, but I didn't cook apart from that yesterday.
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Cause I'd cook a lot. I love cooking, but normally I shop to precisely about what I'm going to cook.
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That's my normal thing. Cause I'm not wanting to, I don't go in with a trolley and go, well, I'd look at that and grab loads of stuff.
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The Jack Reacher of just, this is what I need for now. And I was, you know, just live for the moment, live for the moment.
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Okay. So is that all you buy? Wagon wheels. Genuinely so. Yeah. Wagon wheels. Of course it was.
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Is this a contractual ad read thing, Gary? In every podcast you ever do, you just.
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No, but if it's not after this, if they don't get in touch after this, I mean, I'll be extremely disappointed.
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Okay. Right. So, so you've got the wagon wheels, clearly got a spring in your step.
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We wander home. I wandered home. It's, it's late morning now around a midday, midday.
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I have my session in the gym. Home gym, or are you down to fitness first?
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Home gym. With the people. I've got a gym at home. Yes. Okay. Which I, I'm in three times a week.
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And, and somebody comes to the house. Yeah. There are two reasons for that. One, he'll push me a bit more than I'll ever push myself.
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And secondly, I will turn up if I have an appointment. Otherwise I might go, I'll do it tomorrow.
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Fair. He's trained me for nearly 30 years now. Is he a, is he sort of a shouter?
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Is he one of those personal trainers who sort of neck is bigger than their body?
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No, it's not a shout. Dan's not a shouter. It doesn't need to. I'm a really, really good pupil.
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You never really let it go after football. The way some footballers, now it's unfair on footballers always think, because if a recently retired footballer, puts on like a stone and you see them as a pundit,
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two years later, you look at them and go, Oh my goodness, this person's, but like you, and here's a spooky thing.
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And I promise this is the only thing that I know about you. That is actually spooky.
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My most unusual gift ever is when I was nine, I knew the height, weight and birthplace of every player in the old English first division.
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And I still, I still remember your stats from the 1984 Panini soccer stickers album. Can we compare them now?
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Can we compare 84 to now? If they were indeed accurate back in 1984. They were, there's no way Panini did the, did the hard yards.
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Born Lester. I remember that. That is correct. Definitely. I can't remember it, but yeah.
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Five foot 10. Yeah. I think I've, do you know what? I'd have these massive medicals every 18 months or so, just to keep check on things.
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And they, one of the, one of the million things they do is take my height.
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And the last time I went, my height had dipped for the first time. Oh really?
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Cause you know, as you get older, you do eventually start. And I just, it was like, oh, such a body blow.
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I went down to five, nine and a half. It's the start of the shrinkage.
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Yeah. Is that sort of why you decided you couldn't do match of the day?
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Cause in a few years you'd be like three foot one. I wouldn't, I wouldn't rise above the desk.
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So Gary, in 1984, you were 11 stone 11. That would have been an inaccurate. Most of my playing career.
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I was, it might've been one of those where they take it from you when you're about 17.
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I was generally about 12 stone 10 when I played. Okay. And what's the way now? And way now about 12 stone 12 to 13 stone.
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I'm usually around that. If, I'd weigh myself every day. And if it dips, if it, which I did yesterday and I forgot before I did my teeth, basically I check my weight every morning.
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Cause you're at your lightest generally in the morning. So it makes you feel good.
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And if it goes above 13, then I, I act accordingly. If it goes below 12, 10, I don't.
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You eat a wagon wheel. I'll eat two wagon wheels. So, and yesterday were you with, were you within that yesterday?
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I was beautiful. It was beautiful yesterday. And, and, and, and today, finally. Don't care about today.
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Sorry. I know you don't. I don't weigh myself, but I just try to judge as to how snugly my socks fit.
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And if my socks are tight, then it's time to, it's time to go to work.
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Can you lift socks right over your belly? Really long socks. One massive sort of pajama.
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Yeah. It's the first episode where he's not just been wearing his sock. Is that not a sock?
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Oh, yeah. Let himself go. In the last week. Okay. So we've done a gym workout.
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This is phenomenal. It's a, it's not even midday yet. No, it is midday. My session's midday to one.
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And then I had, I went to see my osteopath. That guy seen my back, looked after me.
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I see him once a month. Before that, I used to wait till my back spasmed, which was quite frequently.
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And then I'd go and see him and then he'd sort me out. But I've gone for the prevention is better than cure thing now.
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So it's about 50, 20 minute drive because it's out where I used to live near Sunningdale, but he's brilliant.
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He's brilliant. Did you get away with 16 years of professional football or whatever it was in pretty good Nick?
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I was incredibly lucky. I had part from at the end with my toe issues, which stopped me playing in Japan.
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Apart from that, I think the longest I was ever out through injury was two weeks.
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Oh my goodness. I had the illness hepatitis. I was out for about three months.
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But that was an illness rather than injury. So no, I was really lucky. Were you as sad as I was when, because I remember running into the living room and going Gascoigne,
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Waddle, Lineker goal, because we'd just signed Gary Lineker. And then I turned the TV on and Chris Waddle had gone to Marseille.
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Were you as sad as I was that Waddle had gone to Marseille? I imagine I was considerably sadder.
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Because I signed for Spurs and I went on holiday. And I got the news.
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My agent called me and said, they've sold Chris Waddle to Marseille. Honestly, it was like someone stealing 15 goals out of my back pocket.
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I mean, it was so good. So good. None of this can make the edit because it didn't happen yesterday, but it was a bit of nostalgia.
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But I was, I was actually thinking, you know, about, I think it was at 12.03 yesterday.
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I was thinking about the time that Chris, Waddle was sold. Terrible. I was so gutted about it.
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I want to do some forensic historical detectiving here, but I mean, that sadness you felt, I mean, I can't blame you for this, but my last, I played rugby, but I was a footballer playing rugby and my cool boots were ones that you had endorsed in Japan.
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Quasars. Quasars. Yeah. Quasar. Well, my first ever game with Quasar boots was when we won 4-2 in the Bernabeu against Spain and I scored all four goals and they launched the boot that day and I had to play the last five minutes of that game
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with the sole hanging off because it wasn't. And I thought I can't change the boot because they've just launched it.
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It looked really, really terrible. Even though I'd scored four goals, genuinely true. And the thing was flapping around as I was running.
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Otherwise I'd have scored five. Are you not eating a lot today, Gary? I only really eat one big meal a day and I'll pick at things.
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And then I jumped in my car. Have you had a shower? Presumably you've had a shower here, Gary.
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Oh yeah, I forgot to mention. Of course I had a shower. Yeah. Okay, good, good, good.
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I had a shower. That was straight after the gym because I was quite tight for time to get to see my osteopath.
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Oh yeah, that's right. With the osteo. Does he crack everything? Does he like get in you?
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No cracking yesterday. Just like manoeuvres, you know, just, just tilts my, gets my pelvis in the right place.
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Keeps me, keeps me on track because I've worked out prevention is much better than cure.
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Normally I used to wait till I have a back spasm. I've got two really warm discs down the bottom.
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So I get quite a few lower back issues. Yeah. Played a few hundred games of football.
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I think it's taken its toll a bit. Do you say to him, can you get me back to five foot 10, please?
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My Pilates does that, but I didn't do Pilates yesterday. I'm just trying to keep my height, but just my, but I, I think my five foot 10 days, because I do remember tales from my football obsessive period of Peter Shelton wanting to be taller.
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So we used to hang from the stairs with books tied to his feet. So, which he then blamed on having longer arms than normal.
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Yeah. He's a very strange person. No, he's a great friend. He's a great friend.
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But yeah, because, you know, nowadays if you see, it'd be considered, well, he's probably shrunk like me, but he's, because he's older than me, but yeah, nowadays you, he wouldn't be big enough.
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I don't think they're huge. Aren't they? We'd have won the world cup. Won't we?
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Because he wasn't, he wouldn't be big enough. Well, if his arms were longer, he didn't, he didn't stretch him enough on the stairs, did he?
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Cause he went the right way on all five penalties, but that was my fault.
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That was my fault. Cause I'm room with Peter Shelton. And I said, we kept watching these penalty shootouts because, because they were quite a new thing back then.
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I said to him, there's always two penalties straight down the middle. I didn't, if a keeper just stands, he's going to save two for sure.
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Yeah. And so that was the plan. So that's why he went the right way on every penalty, but every penalty they stuck in the corner.
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Half an hour late. Oh, it's to blame. So do we drive home from the osteo and we get home and now what's the plan?
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I whizzed in and I had to take the dog to walk cause I'd got an early dinner, which is why I didn't eat.
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Cause I was eating at five o'clock. So I tried to eat one major meal a day and I was seeing a group of friends in town.
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So I came home, took the dog out for 15 minutes and then came back. And then a couple of my sons were coming to come later anyway, cause I had a long night.
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I don't like to leave him for too long. So then I went quickly back out, got the train into London, gone the Victoria line to Oxford circus, got off.
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I'm giving you real detail. That's what I'm trying to do. You can just give us your postcode.
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That would be really nice just for the show notes. Well, everyone knows anyway, the amount of people hanging out the front door, particularly when I've said something daft.
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And then, yeah, then walked to the restaurant called Mountain, which is fabulous in Soho.
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This is what five I've got. Do you listen to anything on, are you, are you got another one of your podcasts on while you're doing this journey?
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Yes. I had, yes, I was listening to, actually I was listening to hours cause I always check hours back, make sure I'm happy with it.
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And everything I was listening to hours on the way. They, when I say hours, I mean, the rest is football, not hours, Max, cause you do.
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No, no, we don't have one. Yeah. Did you think it was a good app?
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I thought it was, it was a good app. It was not on the greatest weekend of Premier League football.
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It wasn't, but then it's our job is to elevate the conversation to make it better than the football itself.
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Make it interesting. Yeah. See, this is as a, I've enjoyed both of your broadcasting.
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And what I do like about, you both, is that if something is bad, you're not afraid to say, which I think is what you should do.
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There's no point in pretending that these are good matches or particularly this weird end of season where there's nothing really to play for.
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I know it's a real, it's a real kind of, I mean, the only thing is the Champions League spots now, because the bottom three are gone.
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And so, yeah, you're right. No, you got to call it as it is because people are not, I mean, we have a very, very, you know, football educated audience.
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So you can't blag it. I mean, Sky, used to do it all the time.
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I think they don't now. They call it as they see it a bit more than they used to now.
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I agree. But in the old days, every game was like, I found that interminable.
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Yeah. You can't bullshit. I really believe this. You cannot bullshit sports fans of anyone.
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And also like, I've had this on some of the stuff in Australia where there was one game.
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We're doing the Champions League and I'm with Craig Foster and Mark Bosnich. And it was really, and we're really enjoying it.
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And we, and we're doing this game, Napoli Barca, and it was okay. And we go, that's okay.
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And then the graph, some of the, the graphics went instant classic in Naples. And I was looking down going, what?
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Because we've just been saying it was shit. And then I'm like, this is pretty generous of the graphics officer.
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And you're like, no football fan is going to go. If you say that game is shit, no fan is going to go.
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Actually, it was shit. Maybe I should rethink this thing I've invested my whole life in and, and just choose something else.
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It wasn't a good game. Maybe I don't like football, you know. I like the thing with England in the Euros where I, I, I said the game was shit.
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Oh yeah. And, and there was, I, the whole world went mad and I was just thinking, but it was, and we were shit.
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We played really badly. If I'd have said they were poor, everyone would have gone, oh, well, that's fine.
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You can say that. But it's four letters just with different letters. I mean, I don't understand the swearing issues.
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Pass forward to Max's Australian A-League YouTube. And he's like, oh, the Woolloomooloo, Joey's against the Port Pirie.
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What an, the greatest game in the history of the sport, they're calling it. Okay.
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So we're, so who are we meeting for dinner? This is exciting, Gary. One of my best friends, Kingy, and actually a group of his friends.
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What's the food? It's sort of British Spanish, British produce, but kind of a Northern Spain vibe.
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Tom Osterchef, Thomas Parry, brilliant chef, Michelin star it got recently. It's sort of meat and fish and, you know, kind of once again, good produce.
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Gary's insisted on British produce for this, as we know. And to Kingy's, because you're, you know, like it's Kingy's mates and you're coming along.
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Are they a bit like, why have you dragged Gary along? What do they sort of bring you?
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Well, they didn't say that, but I felt it. Right. They didn't say it. Lots of in jokes that you sat on the end.
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Yeah. But then, you know, what the really good thing was, is that when I arrived, I was actually not quite, I was the, there were six of us all together.
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I was the fifth to arrive. And I've walked in the restaurant. I can't see, and they said, oh, I thought I'm first here.
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Cause I'm quite punctual. Footballers are. So you get fined if you're late. So I arrived there, bang on five o'clock.
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And they said, yeah, your party's here. And I thought, well, I went, oh, they're downstairs.
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And they put them downstairs. You see? So I went downstairs and I went, I said, King, you can't even get like a table in the upstairs and the, and he's gone,
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no, no, I'm sorry. So, and then they came down and went, Gary, we've got you upstairs.
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So you know, and you, and there were these, there were these five old ladies and it had been their dream to eat at this restaurant.
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And you just kick Gary Lineker, just kick them out. He's got the golden boot from the 1986 world cup in his hands.
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He's pointing at us. Do you know, I always take that around with me. Just in case.
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Yeah. Open so many doors. Doesn't it? It's amazing. Cause he's solid. You can bash the doors down.
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You actually, you smacked an old woman in the face. With his boot. People don't know the real Gary Lineker.
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It's lucky we're doing this episode. Okay. So what are we starting with cocktails with Kingy and the lads?
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Yes. I had a Negroni. Okay. That's a strong start, isn't it? Two Negronis actually.
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Okay. So you're sipping on a Negroni and do they just bring you the food or are you, as they're sort of.
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I did the order cause I'm, I've frequented that restaurant on numerous occasions. So quite a lot of pressure to order.
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It's a lot of pressure, but I did hand over the wine list to somebody else to choose the wine.
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And did you, did you order far too much or the perfect amount? Great question.
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I think I pretty much nailed it. Cause I've eaten this a lot. Imagine me and David are Kingy and the lads and you are now talking to the waiter.
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Could you just do the order for us? I can try. We had these. Yeah.
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But like as if you're ordering it, like with a bit of, you know, well, you want me, you want me to pretend that you're the, yeah, the server, right?
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Okay. Yeah. Role play. Yeah. Here we go. Right. Server. Wow. No, I think I went.
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We'll go with the. And then we, they do the amazing. See, I can't automatically going out of that mode.
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No, that's okay. The spider crab omelets. Okay. Interesting. Which are delicious. And we'll also please have, I don't know why I'm looking up there.
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That's where the waiter is. That's where the waiter is. It's good. It's good. It's good for the visuals.
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Yeah. Great. So, and I go, and we'll have two of the monkfish and scallop crudo.
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Okay. And then we had a shared Dover sole. We had a duck dish and we'll have the.
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Nachos. Big plate of nachos. We'll have the ribeye, the big ribeye. Okay. And some.
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What a meal. Fur potatoes. Okay. That's F-I-R. They're kind of new potatoes, like long and thin things.
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Beautiful. With loads of butter on it. And some wood fired rice that went beautifully with the duck.
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Yeah. This is a good meal. It'd be funny if Gary had made all this up and he just had a frozen Dr.
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Oatker pizza at home. Some Gino Gianelli ice cream. If the server gets in touch and complains, say, well, actually you ordered two of those, not one.
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Is it, is it a bun? Is it a very polite? You have this, you have this, or you, is there, if you're eye on something, someone's taking a bit too much of that omelette and you really want to get it.
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I think actually everyone was pretty civilized. Yes. Okay. That was the conversation. What was the conversation Gary?
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A bit reminiscent. We were, the last time we all met together was on Kingy's Stag do in Barcelona.
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Now what, what happens then when you're talking football, do you like talking about football when you're not broadcasting about football?
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Cause I find I'm sort of footballed out. So if somebody says, Oh, what about the scores last night?
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I'm like, Oh God, come on. I'm gonna do this later. It's been the one ever present in my life.
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Football really. You know, my kids have been there half the time probably. And I've been married twice.
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My parents have gone. So it's been, yeah, it's kind of part of my life.
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I love, I genuinely love football. So no, I love it. I just don't, I just don't.
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If someone in a cafe says, I'd rather just talk about biscuits. If I'm in a cafe.
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With respect though, Max, and I really respect you and everything you've done. You're not, you're not fucking Gary Lineker.
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Okay. Just, I'm not sure the comparison is exactly the same thing. I see that.
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I see where you're coming from. Did you know that? Did you forgive me? I don't know your career statistics, but did you actually, did you actually play football boots?
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I mean, I'm surprised you don't know that Melbourne university, old boys, 2023, 2024 champions after 20 strong years at polytechnic fours.
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And before that Keeble, college first 11 Hills road, six from college, first 11 couple of games for the junior use Cambridge.
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I was an old school target man, lots of flick ons, but when the game changed, then I had to go back into what I call the non-moving pivot, sort of holding midfield.
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Like most strikers that are, they gradually work themselves back. Yeah, but I refuse to go back to centre back, but I've got a good touch for a big man.
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Definitely. We'd have worked quite well together actually. Gary, I'd have put a lot on him.
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I know Waddle's gone, but I've got a lot of lick ons for you. This is awful.
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Oh my, this is the low point. This would be like me telling Osman, you know what I mean?
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How he could have improved his million dollar selling books. But yeah, now I'd say you make a point, David, about our respective careers.
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You're right. But for one small moment there, I thought Gary and I really bonded about our football careers.
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That is true. Okay. So this dinner, did you get a dessert? Did you get a dessert?
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I didn't. I had to go because I was, which we'll come on to, but I had to leave them.
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I have to leave them to it because I had an appointment at the copper box at the, you know, the Stratford.
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Oh, is that the, are you doing the new, I thought mate, for a start, I thought you were going to have to go to another dinner and like the Vicar of Dibley Christmas special and keep having dinners.
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Oh, this, this new, this is all new football thing. It's like six a side and yeah, and we, we've got a team in it, my Carolyn and myself, Shira, and I went along to see our team play.
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So I got the back on the tube, Oxford, so I'll give you my route, Oxford, up to Highbury and Islington and then changed to, is it the mild may line?
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I'd never heard of it until I got overground to Hackney Wick and then walked seven miles.
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So we've got the, the dreaded two Negronis gaffer has just walked into the dressing room.
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You'll be a Nets. You'll be a Nets. I went into the dressing room to see the players before the game.
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It's the first time in the dressing room, I think since I've finished playing, other than maybe to do a link with nobody in there before a match or something, but with actually players ready to play,
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it's the first time I think since I, since I finished. And it, I didn't, I thought it was weird really.
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I didn't know what to say or anything. Nothing silly. First five, just fucking get into them.
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Did you do that? Oh, I never thought of that. Does it still smell of wintergreen?
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Is that the smell of a football dressing room? Do you know, it's slightly, it didn't smell like, you know, the old, what was that liniment?
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DP and all that kind of stuff. They used to, it didn't smell of any of that, but maybe because they're playing in a warm inside arena on AstroTurf, and maybe you don't need,
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you don't need that kind of ointment. And to these players, so there's you, you're all there, you, Mike Richards, Alan Shearer, are they in awe of you?
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Or are they so young, they know you didn't host Match of the Day? I didn't ask them.
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I didn't say, excuse me lads, before we start, are you in awe of us?
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Had you left the Italian, the golden boot at the restaurant, are you holding the golden boots there?
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I actually had it under my jumper now. I was hiding it, even though I didn't have a jumper on.
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Gary's like a gather round, and he's got his highlights YouTube reel, just holding it.
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Lads, get a load of this. What is this? Is it, are they ex-pros, or are they pros or young lads?
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It's a mixture. A lot of them are ex-pros, and it's good standard. Players that perhaps haven't quite made it, or their careers, or they've had injuries, and they've come back.
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If your team is looking for an ageing target man, who now drops back, and doesn't run anymore, I do, I have someone on my books, that I might be able to farm out for.
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I played, one charity six-a-side thing, where I think Danny Welbeck came, with his mates, and they played, we were playing Soccer AM, and we were quite good at football, and it was just so like,
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oh God, it's a different sport. These people can just do things with their feet, it's just not on.
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But I'm still available, of course. Okay, so this takes you to, this is quite late in the, you've had a long day going.
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Yeah, no, and it's only this morning, that I thought, oh I'm doing Max's thing, and David's thing.
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I actually had a really busy day, because some days, I don't, you know, not much happens at all.
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So, got there about half seven, and then the game was at 20 past, half past eight, and finished about nine o'clock.
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So, and then we, you know, did a bit of few interviews, and lots and lots of selfies, and eventually meandered out, to try and get myself home.
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And are you, are you back on the, back on the train, Hackney Week? Yeah, I walked back to Hackney Week, got on the train, it was delayed about, 25 minutes, there were lots of train,
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it was weird, because the train's supposed to run every few minutes, I don't, there must have been an issue, and it became absolutely packed, with lots of people that have been to see this,
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and, but everyone was really nice. And how's the journey home? Apart from that wait, it was all right, got off at, same again, Highbury and Islington, and then got the Victoria line down,
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this time down to Vauxhall. Straight to Vauxhall, yeah. Vauxhall, and then got the, is it probably an Isleworth train?
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Is it an Isleworth train? I got Isleworth about 20 to 11, I think. You're probably getting the Isleworth one, isn't it?
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Yeah, one of those, yeah, it goes, yeah, South Barth, Barnes Bridge, Chiswick, that's one, okay, lovely.
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And actually quite nostalgic for me, like just hearing these, you know, because my football club was in Chiswick, I'd get that a lot, the Vauxhall down to, Melbourne to Chiswick.
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It is a bit of a way, it is a way, so with a 25 minute, you're like, ah, that's a problem.
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You have to put 10 grand on your Oyster card. That's what Max has to do.
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Coins. It's really annoying. Okay, so we come through the door. Are you spent now, Gary?
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You know, have those Negronis started to hit in? Yeah, I was tired. I was tired.
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I'm not as young as I was. Did you nip for another wagon wheel or is it just straight to brushing your teeth for between two and four minutes?
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No, no, no, no. Well, I let the dog out in the garden, just chuck him out the back just in case he needs a pee.
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And, um, and then came in. You, uh, you ask him, should I fire Rory Stewart?
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And whether you take a pee in the next minute, we'll just, that will. He's a big fan of Rory.
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He's a big fan of Rory. Is he? Yeah, he did. Yeah. When he came around, he, yeah, he was a big fan, like Rory.
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You know, we went in, um, upstairs, like most people I would imagine, get into bed.
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Are we, uh, TV on? Are we, uh, it's not looking at fun. No, never, never.
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I haven't got a TV in my bedroom, I don't. I don't. Read a book?
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I'm not, I'm very, I only really watch sport on television. I watch box, a series, but normally that's when I'm traveling or around on my, but I don't know.
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Don't watch too much telly. Do you open the window and wave goodnight to Trevor McDonald?
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And he waves, I can't, I don't, I don't know where he lives. I don't know why his house is.
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Otherwise, obviously I would. If he's the house behind me on that, I would have done, but he just, I don't think he lives there.
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And do you, is there like, would you like to go around to his, are you waiting for him to invite you?
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Or do you, maybe you could like take the bull by the horns and invite him over.
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Yeah. I want to be there at 10 o'clock to see if he watches the news.
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Is he watching going, no, I've done that. Exactly. Like we have some guests on this pod who have really kind of interesting ways of going to sleep.
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I don't know if you find it easy to just nod off or if you have to like, Sam Campbell invented his own entire fictional sport, for example, or you just head on the pillow out.
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Head on the pillow. I don't know. It's funny. It's funny when you go to sleep and you sometimes lay there and you think, oh, and then, then you wake up in the morning.
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It's mad, isn't it? It's like, it's almost as though you fall asleep. Even when you don't think you will.
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Yeah. No, I'm quite a good sleeper actually. I'm not a bad sleeper. And I can, as I said before, I sleep in until the arm goes off.
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But I suppose for this, this, what happened yesterday, I definitely fell asleep before midnight.
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So, for the last, what, I don't know, 40 minutes of the day yesterday, I don't think I can tell you what was going on.
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As soon as you're, you're out, you're gone. We're done. That's, we need nothing more from you.
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Can you imagine how short this episode would have been if I had a really early night?
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Oh, we've had Nish Kumar literally spent eight hours on the sofa. Yeah. It was our first episode we ever did.
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We're like, I'm not sure if this is a winner. He had diarrhea. And then he sat on the couch watching a boring football match.
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I can relate to that. That's why I carry my poo bags. Of course. And would you look back and say that was a good day?
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Is that a representative day? For the listeners, would they say this is, what have we got here?
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Yes, I've got one. He's got one, of course he does. He's got a poo bag in his pocket.
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Poo bag in one pocket, golden boot in the other. You know he's coming. Was that a representative day?
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Do you feel like it was a good day? I think it was a good busy day.
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Yeah. I mean, my days really do vary apart from Saturdays, but that's about to change as well, of course.
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Well, thank you, Gary. Pleasure. Thank you so much. Maybe you should come every, every time you shrink by an inch, you can come back on.
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So that was Gary's day, David. Do you think I shouldn't have mentioned, well, my anger about the boots that he endorsed that I have, or even bringing up his playing weight in 1984 was,
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in retrospect, maybe I shouldn't have done that. I really like the moment where I was, I was genuinely talking to Gary, we were comparing football careers and I did go a bit,
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a little bit like, actually, I'm going to hold my own. He's asked me if I played, I'll tell him.
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And you were like, this is absolutely terrible. He played in the match where Maradona scored the greatest goal of all time.
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And you're literally telling him about knockdowns you did on Hackney Marshes. But when it all starts, and I've said this, as we said to Gary, just when he came off air,
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you know, what people want to know is that Gary Lineker has a wagon wheel for breakfast.
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You know, that is, that is elite. What did you do yesterday? Isn't it? There is Gary Lineker.
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He's naked. He brushes his teeth, takes his dog out for a shit, comes back, eats a wagon wheel.
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What else? What else do you need? What else do you need? I wonder. Yeah, I do.
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I couldn't ask him. Cause it would have just slowed down the momentum. Does he like nibble the chocolate off the top?
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You know what I mean? Does he go, does he go 360 right around the edges and then sort of eat it into a concentric circle?
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I think because probably for the first 10 minutes, he was thinking, why the hell did I agree to do this?
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Like, do you have some Intel on him? How did you pull this off? Some, what's it called?
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Compromato or whatever. But you're right. We've really missed a trick. We need, I can't text him now going, can you just tell me your tactics?
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Can you send us a video of you eating a wagon wheel? What are you?
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Do you think he licks the marshmallow? He said he loved marshmallow, didn't he? Does he do that?
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I don't know. Anyway, the thing is I can't message Gary for a year now.
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I've messaged him. Thank you. So what is it? The 8th of April, 2025. Uh, if you are listening, Gary, cause he does listen to a lot of podcasts, mainly his own and those from his stable.
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Uh, I will, I will not message you until the 8th of April, 2026. actually I should.
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I mean, it's a bit late now cause I think the listeners will have realized it.
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So in addition to being the voice of sport on the BBC, he is now boss man of basically eight of the UK's biggest podcasts as well.
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Do you think he was listening to us thinking, I'll have a listen, see if it's something he wants to bring into his, we can't be, they can't, he can't afford us.
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He could be, you know, the way, um, big teams play smaller teams in preseason tournaments and then sometimes try and buy their best players.
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Yeah. What if he just comes in? He just comes in for you. It'll be a bit of a disappointment.
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He contacts you. Hey Max. And you're like, Oh yes, Gary, do you, do you have David's number?
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Thank you, David. Let's do it again. Sometime. Congratulations on that booking, Max. That's great stuff.
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Let's do it again soon. Listen, I said to you, we need more A-listers. It pissed you off.
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You had it, you know, you were annoyed for a little morning, so I just had to take it into my own hands.
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There we are. And I'll message Stephen Graham and say, come on, Lineker's done it. Sort yourself out. Thanks, Max. Cheers, David.